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  • We need to lock that page to unregistered edits. That unregistered users just keeps vandalizing it.

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    • I am sorry, but I can't do that. I am not an admin.

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    • Wellsworth96 wrote: I am sorry, but I can't do that. I am not an admin.

      Yeah an Admin replied to my message on that page. The fact is, I'm so new here I don't know the Admins.

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    • Copy of comment message:

      Hi WarGrowlmon18. I've been working on wikis for over a decade, as an admin for over three years. I'm familiar with many of the tricks that bad actors use on wikis. I've locked individual pages. I've done IP range blocks. I know how to contact staff for checkuser. I've temporarily disabled IP edits on whole wikis. In short, this isn't my first rodeo. At this time there hasn't been any actions to indicate more severe measures are necessary. Before you ask me to lock down the entire wiki, please provide evidence that it's currently necessary.

      To reiterate, I've been around the block. Something I've learned is that the majority of bad actors don't know how to jump IPs. Those who do jump, often jump within a specific range (making range blocks very effective). Bad actors who jump to random IPs around the world are very, very rare. You can block IP edits, but that doesn't prevent them from creating multiple new accounts, etc. If someone wanted to be persistent enough, they can wreck havoc. However, the vast majority of people have better uses of their time and go away after being blocked.

      The reason I'm not taking more serious actions, is because there is no evidence that such actions are necessary at this time. The issue was one IP who's now blocked. Until they start jumping, it's still a one IP issue.

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    • Janus100 wrote: Copy of comment message:

      Hi WarGrowlmon18. I've been working on wikis for over a decade, as an admin for over three years. I'm familiar with many of the tricks that bad actors use on wikis. I've locked individual pages. I've done IP range blocks. I know how to contact staff for checkuser. I've temporarily disabled IP edits on whole wikis. In short, this isn't my first rodeo. At this time there hasn't been any actions to indicate more severe measures are necessary. Before you ask me to lock down the entire wiki, please provide evidence that it's currently necessary.

      To reiterate, I've been around the block. Something I've learned is that the majority of bad actors don't know how to jump IPs. Those who do jump, often jump within a specific range (making range blocks very effective). Bad actors who jump to random IPs around the world are very, very rare. You can block IP edits, but that doesn't prevent them from creating multiple new accounts, etc. If someone wanted to be persistent enough, they can wreck havoc. However, the vast majority of people have better uses of their time and go away after being blocked.

      The reason I'm not taking more serious actions, is because there is no evidence that such actions are necessary at this time. The issue was one IP who's now blocked. Until they start jumping, it's still a one IP issue.

      Well, I hope you're right, honestly. I was just giving advice as one Admin to another based on my own experiences. I don't Admin on this Wiki, but one of the Wikis I DO hold it on I've probably been Admin for close to a decade. To be frankly honest, I'm still not sure how I got that one as I was suddenly promoted without seeking the job, but at this point the automatic welcome message there (and it IS a very active Wiki) is signed as coming from me. Which I don't know how that happened but don't really care. The other one, the one I mentioned, I sought that job which required a vote. It was unanimous aside from one guy who got an Infinite Ban shortly thereafter because he was a major troublemaker.

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    • And as one admin to another, I'm asking you to provide actual evidence that at this point a single IP block is insufficient. Because right now you're making a lot of noise out of nothing.

      Yes, I know, sometimes an IP jumps, but I also know that majority of time they don't. So I don't lock pages after one bad IP. Nor do I do range blocks over one IP. And I certainly don't lock down entire wiki over one IP.

      And this issue is literally one IP. But you're making them into an army that hasn't appeared yet. Maybe they will, maybe they won't. Meanwhile, my goal is to provide as open an environment as possible and locking down only when it becomes necessary.

      Right now, you've wasted much more of my time than that IP has and haven't given me one bit of useful information.

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