511 "The Dark Year" episode discussion:
What was your favorite part? What surprised you? What do you think will happen next?
511 "The Dark Year" episode discussion:
What was your favorite part? What surprised you? What do you think will happen next?
That's why it's not comparable to what Clark did in Mount Weather. There were no other options, it was kill or be killed. And getting worse and hoping for a happy ending is not the best way to justify earlier wrong decisions.
This season has not convinced me yet. It is not enough to put people in similar hopeless situations. It must be a development, a lesson from the past, or none at all. What Clark is doing now because of Madi is stupidly nonsensical.
You ever see a body atrophy? It's disgusting... more disgusting than cannibalism
I found this episode disappointing. Since the beginning of the season we've been hearing people mention the dark year and hear how it was forbidden to even mention, and when this episode came out it just felt weak compared to what it felt they were building up to. While cannibalism is a horrific and dark story I was expecting much worse. Maybe it was just me but I predicted wonkru becoming cannibals so it wasn't that shocking. Also at first I thought we'd also get backstory as to what caused Abby to be an addict. Are we just supposed to presume that the episodes events lead to her addiction? Also Jason's tweet about not knowing how they got by the censorship rules doesn't make much sense.
I think that the flashbacks were effective and made me feel wonkrus pain, but I do agree that the buildup did not pay off. If it were me i would of incorporated this story around episode 7 to add more context to octaviea, kane and abby agenda's and it would come at a time when we all had an idea of cannibalism but not seen how far gone octavia was. That may have been more effective.
Abby was an addict before the dark year as jakson express concern for her overuse of pain killers in the red queen episode. I think she originally used the dugs to help her deal with the presume loss of clarke but now it is to help her with her guilt of the dark year and taking away kane's choice. Sorry if my spelling is bad.
I am getting annoyed with Bellamy because he still doesn't know what happened and Indra shouldn't be siding with him. But I also don't hate him because Octavia and he are siblings so their gonna fight and not get along, it's what siblings do. I think we shouldn't hate them for saying rude things to each other because deep down we all know that Octavia is Bellamy's family and that they love each other.
Octavia is being destroyed from the inside out as I can see, everybody is turning the back on her.
Big kudos for a TV show that few dare to touch. This is as brutal as it gets. I laughed at the comments which said "There is a better way" or "They should have a choice". Read the history please. There were many sieges that residents of town or the city ended up resorting to cannibalism to survive. It's horrible, but at the time it was the only choice they had. It's very interesting to see a show dare to show such this hidden dark side of humanity. However, do you think Octavia really had a choice at that time? She did ask Kane for a different solution, but Kane couldn't. Do you think you have an alternative solution for their desperate situation? Be real. There was none, which makes the show more realistic than most other "fancy" sci-fi shows.
On another matter, Kane and Diyoza just pretended to defect to the McCreary camp. The whole attacking plan, which Bellamy laid out to Octavia, was obviously drew up by Diyoza. She wouldn't sabotage her own plan. So it's very likely that she and Kane were acting as trojan horse. They will give the prisoner camp a big surprise, when the time comes. Also Kane himself went through the dark year. He understood Octavia's reasons of canibalism. So even he thinks Octavias is the "devil", but she is the "devil" he knows. On the other hand, McCreary is very unpredictive. He's dying so he got nothing to loose. Plus the ship has all kinds of modern weapon, which can level the whole village. So this "monster" is much more dangerous than the "devil". That's why Kane will not really help McCreary.
I really enjoyed this episode, it was one of the best in my opinion. I loved everything that was happening between Clarke and Abby and the flash backs to the dark year. This episode really made me understand why Octavia is the way she is and to be fair i don't really blame her. There was only one thing that is annoying me atm with the 100 which is that the flame is still around. I really thought that we left that storyline in season 4 but i guess i was wrong. I really hope it doesn't continue into season 6 because its kinda getting old.
Overall it was a really good episode though.
(This is my opinion btw, please don't hate me :))
Actually, that's the definition of logical. Doing the right thing to save *everyone* no matter what people want, is logical. It's survival. Free will? Have you seen how grounders operate? They usually don't do "the right thing" if it's against their rules. And they have different rules than Sky People. Sky People were ALWAYS about surviving untill they can get to Earth safely. Grounders weren't, they were about surviving too, sure, but surviving as a tribe, not as human race. They wouldn't and didn't choose cannibalism, which I understand, but it was unlogical. It would screw everyone up.
Free will? Have you seen how grounders operate? They usually don't do "the right thing" if it's against their rules. And they have different rules than Sky People. Sky People were ALWAYS about surviving untill they can get to Earth safely. Grounders weren't, they were about surviving too, sure, but surviving as a tribe, not as human race. They wouldn't and didn't choose cannibalism, which I understand, but it was unlogical. It would screw everyone up.
I agree... when you're in that sort of scenario, it's more about surviving than it it about morals... That being said, that scene when people were rejecting caniballism with Octavia shooting those who didn't was gruesome. And I think most people disagree with that decision, but it was either that or die drowning in your own blood.
The thing that has me confused, why did Wonkru have to resort to cannabilism to survive, but Spacekru lasted for 6 years on algae? Unless algae has some miraculous properties I'm unaware of, surely Spacekru would've died long ago.