All posts by FloaterJ

Political candidates are constantly brought up here. I have noticed, here and namy other places, one group (and members of that gorup) gets a free pass on anything they do, up to and including blatant ___ism, while the other is vilified whether they do/say anything or not.

To clarify, my point was to those people who want to see some kind of change, to quit screaming about a sca[egoat, and try looking for where the perceived problem is actually coming from. (Hint: if you keep looking at and blaming some schmuck who is not even a serious political contender, yu are looking in the wrong place; you are  better off looking at the ones who are established and entrenched, and have a strong following in the places where the shows are made, in particular the shows people are griping about.

More than 99% of hollywood votes for a given poliitical party. So, when you want to blame a group for being "racist" or "sexist" or "anti LGBTQ(whatever other leters we're supposed to asdd here now)", take a look at hollywood and the politicians you see them hobnobing with.

Well Dragonfly, I want to give a compliment on your post, buy everything that comes to mind leaves me comparing your post to a majority of others posts I've seen here, and I want to avoid lumping this in with those. So, please just accept that I was impressed by this post.

And if anyone knows about hate, it's a bubbling cauldorn of it like Skyzy.

Seriously, I am convinced you only stay on this site, not because of "the investment of time" you claim, but to constanty whine like a spoiled child about Trump. What's the matter? People you know in the real world sick of your crap?

This may be a surprise to you, but there are actually sites devoted to political issues, where you could cry and scream to your heart's content. Let us keep this site for the intended purpose: Talking about a TV show.

Gotta agree fully with this.

Remember, not everyone has the time and/or interest in looking this up online. Some people just want to watch the show, and deserve to have the answers they need IN the show. It's one of the basics of (competent) writing. Yeah, leave them wanting more, but do not leave them asking WTF.

People SHOULD be able to just watch the episodes that air, and that SHOULD be enough to understand what is happening on the show. I come to this site for additional things, or to get clarification on something maybe I missed. It should never be neccessary to simply understand the basics of the show.

If that happens, it happens. But let it be natural. Trying to shoehorn a lesbian relationship into the story just to have lesbians on the show is merely pandering, and should be seen as an insult to not just the viewers, but to lesbians in general. Quit reducing people to labels!

Maybe that is because people, the makers of the shows as well as the viewers, are reducing them down to nothing more than their sexuality. When you start to see the characters as people, regardless of sexuality, the potential for improvement will finally become real.

I am a bit curious now, what are these shows you watch that apparently are so negative about the LGBT relationships.

Everyone pitching a fit over "Lexa the Lez" being killed off, you're wrong. The actress has a commitment to another show, and that is the main part of why the character was killed off.

They did NOT "kill the lesbian" as you claim. They killed off a well-liked main character. It happens. In writing, it builds up some tension by showing nobody is immune to mortality just because you like the character. It has much more impact when a character you've had time to get to know, for good or bad, dies. Those random side characters dying just don't call up any real feelings for the viewers.

Is that really how you saw Lexa? She was just "a lesbian", and nothing more? Do you reduce Clarke to being "the blonde chick"? Is Monty nothing more than "the oriental kid" to you? I think that's sad. I view the characters as people, as much as the writers develop them. To me, Lexa was a person, "Heda kom Trikru" with all the priveleges and burdens that come with the title. And yes, a lesbian. But not merely a lesbian, as it seems many of you see the character as. A person is a lot more than the arbitrary labels you insist on forcing upon them. Her romantic choices are a part of her, and should not be the sole thing used to define her.

That said, it was a rather inglorious death for her. But then, only fools seek glory in death.

Mercenary? You do realize mercenaries fight for pay, rather than any sense of believing in "the cause", don't you? The loyalty of a mercenary is only to the paycheck.

The bigger the hype, the bigger the disappointment.

While it may simply be the fact that I've only seen this play out one way (the way the episodes were broadcast), it sounds to me like the episodes we got were an improvement over this 'original' script.

Clarke/Finn/Octavia love triangle? My initial reaction is a gagging sound. But, I can't help but wonder how it would have played out once Lincoln became part of the show. And, how would have Bellamy been about his baby sister getting played by Finn?

Yeah, good idea. For one, it will allow the writers to flex their creatve muscles a but, developing these new places they explore, and any cultures they find along the way. (Seeking out new life, and new civilizations...Ground Trek) Second, it gives the characters more autonomy, like they had in Season One, before the Ark came down.

I never watched Buffy, other than the original movie when it got to the cable networks (1991? 92?), but I've seen pretty much the same storyline in other shows: main character decides the pressure is too much and decides to chuck it all and walk away, until events force him/her to step up and fall back into the role of protector/defender/leader/whatever. So, that is what I explect with Clarke in Season Three. She'll do a bit of walkabout, and eventually she'll either be forced back into the position of leading people, or she'll return home to Camp Jaha by choice, after having some cathartic revelation that everything she did, was done because it had to be done, and it had to be done by her, because nobody else could (or some such crap).

Good point Skyzy. I had totally forgotten that about the radio tower. Some of the other stations may have been trying to get in contact with them for weeks. Now, maybe the signal can get through.

"I think it's a very good possibility that we'll see more of them (unless there weren't any other survivors)." - Considering the piece of the Ark that came down to form the core of Camp Jaha made it, it stands to reason at least a few of the other pieces could make it as well. Also, it would be a really bad move on the part of the writers to waste so many potential storylines by making a blanket declaration that there were no other survivors. 

I think It may also be possible some of them decided not to bother, and are setting up shop wherever they hit ground.

But then, some of them may be searching for Camp Jaha, or are waiting for someone from there to come looking for them.

I expect in Season Three we'll see more of the other Grounder Clans, and of course AI Alie and her plans to force Jaha to help rebuild the missile.

If the show manages to keep going for a few more seasons, I think eventually they'll show us other cultures that have developed elsewhere, like west of the Mississippi, across the Atlantic, and points south of Tondc.

Also, let us not forget about the other sections of the Ark. I think those may come into play eventually, if ratings keep the show going long enough to get to that.

OK. You thought it was 100 originally, and I thought it was 300. Aparently the actual figure is almost right in the middle.

As for Finn doing his little float around the dropship, yeah, that was dumb of him. If he had gotten himself killed because of that, it would have been his own fault. Same for the two who chose to imitate him. To quote Kenobi" Who's more foolish? The fool, or the fool who follows him? Not helping to bury them does no more than maybe make him a selfish jerk.

I think Omega is right, that Finn was not all that popular by fandom in Season One, (I wouldn't know, since I didn't know the show existed until it was already into Season Two), so the writers decided to make him throughly unlikable so the ones who did like him would change their opinion. Then, with Finn being so hated, it would look like they were giving the viewers what they want, by executing him. It's pandering for sure, but they sure went about it in a screwy way.

I believe it would have been 300 to die if Jaha hadn't stalled. And the fact is, Jaha wanted to prevent the culling if possible. It was Kane that forced him into finally agreeing to it.

And you're right about the effect on Finn. It can change a person dramatically, taking a life. Frankly, I would not feel safe around anyone who wasn't affected by such an act.

Maybe Finn didn't have PTSD, but there was something going on. Call it what you want, but he was definitely not in his right mind. He was sick woth worry about Clarke, already on the edge, then the discovery of the clothing and equipment belonging to the delinquents made it clear those grounders had some knowledge of what had happened to them. Then, the grounders refusing to provide information was the final straw. They knew where that gear came from, and they said nothing. If they had answered, the massacre could have been prevented.

Now, to answer people saying Artigas could not know Finn would shoot him if he attacked. Give the kid a bit of credit, will you? Artigas SAW Finn gun the older guy down while he was trying to make a break for it. Artigas could not possibly bo so stupid as to think attacking Finn would not result in a response. He knew what to expect, and took the risk. Remember, Grounder culture teaches them to expect to die in battle.

That said, I do place the bulk of responsibility on Finn. Whether in his right mind or not, the action was inexcusable. He wasn't the only one making mistakes, but he did make the most lethal mistake. Whether that warranted execution or not is a debate I really would prefer to not get into on this forum. (Save political debates for political forums) But, bear in mind the situation they live in. They do not have the luxury of putting him in a maximum security prison; They needed a more immediate resolution. Also, the Grounders the Sky People wanted an alliance with, were screaming for his blood. In fact, Lexa stated ut in as many words, that Finn's death was a non-negotiable requirement for them to even consider a truce with the Sky People. Finn even realized that, and made the choice to face the Grounders and their execution. That makes him unlike Bellamy in that he was man enough to face the consequences of his actions.

Here's a thought: What if the marrow treatment wasn't as permanent as the Mountain Men had thought?

It makes little difference now, but suppose Season Two had ended differently, with Mt Weather not being wiped out. If Cage had gotten further along with his plan and had been getting more of his people outside. They spend a couple weeks coming and going with no problems...until the treatment starts to wear off. With the ridiculous way the writers handled radiation poisoning, it could have come along quite seddenly, catching them off guard, after they had long enough to get overconfident about the effectiveness of their treatments. But, by then, it would be too late, since all of Mt Weather's strongest and healthiest would ends up succumbing to the instant wearing off of the marrow treatments.

Well, it's just a passing thought I had.

Likely? Bummer. If it was a certainty, I'd have said they already filmed the scenes.

I hope they do at least let us have a bit of closure on this. (Clexa Closure?). I hate it when a show leaves me hanging on some detail like this. Also, they'd be fools to have Lexa "die off screen". That would be better left unanswered, allowing for a character comeback if something happens, like her character on Walking Dead gets killed off (on screen, so no debate on it; it's canon for the show).