Board Thread:Character Discussion/@comment-28398720-20160530203022/@comment-28151443-20161210145635

Charinfox wrote:

1. It seems as though you are blaming Bellamy for the mistakes of so many, yet I understand where you are coming from. No, I blame him that after 3 seasons of disastrous decisions he is the same guy who said “Whatever we want”. He isn’t leader for me(In that show had two leaders - Kane and Dante in season 2 ) but people love to put him in that position. It’s not just cool job and cool decisions leading to “The key for everything” it has something called responsibility. He never takes that(No, it’s not taking responsibility when he said “Kill me” when he was overdosed with nuts to his hallucination. It’s not taking responsibility when he goes to Clarke because he knows that she will forgive him. It’s not Clarke who has to forgive him first. It’s not taking responsibility when he let his sister to beat him because he think this would be enough for her anger and she will forgive him faster.).

 - Jaha could order killing of his sister but the moment when he shot him, Bellamy killed her. (As case with TonDC in season 2 – Bomb came from MW but Clarke and Lexa killed people in that village).

 - It wasn’t right to close their eyes for a murder as he wanted. He didn’t close his eyes for Charlotte’s death and she wasn’t murdered by Murphy. They all were responsible for Charlotte but only Murphy paid the price for that crime.

 - Why was Wells any different from Charlotte? They both was innocent, they both were good. And here come what I tried to explain in my last post. Bellamy fight against everyone who doesn’t see him as a hero like was with Wells and Murphy.

 - But that is his job if he wants to be a leader. He must know when to say “No, that not gonna happen!”. But he never said that to anyone.

 - The reason he can’t save people is because he never thinks. Every time when he made mistakes he already knew that this is mistake(Sky people, Murphy, Finn, Lincoln, MW, grounders).

People judge Lexa because she chose her people in end in season 2 and left sky people alone. Yes, she should die after that decision (not because sky people but MM who were still alive when she left battlefield. You know “Blood must have blood”.). People judge Echo because she betrayed Bellamy. But they forget that before Bellamy free her, she saved his life. They were quits. Echo were loyal to her people and her queen. No, every grounder is like Lincoln who put “right” and “wrong” before his people and leader. And what kind of gratefully he received by Bellamy after it?

Nobody thinks that grounders inside the mountain were weak, barely holding to their feet and naked. These helpless people were their secret army, Lexa never saw people in MW but Bellamy and Clarke what were their excuse? Bellamy free that people and left them alone to protected themselves without any weapons. He promised Echo that he will return for them but I believed that MM came first. MM could killed them there without anyone stop them. What kind of loyalty Bellamy expected from Echo after that?

<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"CalibriLight","sans-serif"; mso-ascii-theme-font:major-latin;mso-hansi-theme-font:major-latin"> - Of course he was afraid of/for Octavia but when she was afraid of him her words didn’t stop him. Her fear didn’t stop him. She gave him chance to make different choice but he didn't take it. The only thing he gave her was world "revenge"(if he would say it to me, this would be his last word(And I don't like Octavia in 50% of the time)). <span style="font-family:"CalibriLight",sans-serif;font-weight:normal;">And really he believed that to kill 300 innocent people(because they hadn't any fault for Gina's death) is the same thing as to kill the man who destroyed your future? Is it revenge to kill Lincoln’s murder? Why was Lincoln any different from Gina?

<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"CalibriLight","sans-serif"; mso-ascii-theme-font:major-latin;mso-hansi-theme-font:major-latin"> - It’s not their job to do that instead of him. They couldn’t do it even if they wanted it. They are his family and they are there for him. But to draw conclusions from what he have done it’s his own job. Why does he choose to listen them when they say that he is the hero ? But when they say that he is on the wrong side he ignores them all?

<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"CalibriLight","sans-serif"; mso-ascii-theme-font:major-latin;mso-hansi-theme-font:major-latin">That passion about you talked should kill him and all his people after his last season’s choices but he and they are still alive. After all lies because his speeches all were little lies starting from “Whatever we want” to “I always do the best thing for my people.” He should be casted down by someone else but people still follow him. Everything he love is still there. He has a hope. How would he be any different next season when everything is the same for him?

<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"CalibriLight","sans-serif"; mso-ascii-theme-font:major-latin;mso-hansi-theme-font:major-latin">  <span style="font-family:"CalibriLight",sans-serif;">I don’t agree, he isn’t so selfless how people want from him to be. If that was truth why did he start a war with grounders? He didn’t know how many soldiers grounders had. But he kn <span style="font-family:"CalibriLight",sans-serif;font-weight:normal;">e <span style="font-family:"CalibriLight",sans-serif;">w very well that sky people hadn’t enough bullets, people and resources, he know how hard Kane, Abby, Octavia and Clarke work to achieve peace with grounders. And he know that some of their people still were missing including Clarke  <span style="font-family:"CalibriLight",sans-serif;font-weight:normal;">and <span style="font-family:"CalibriLight",sans-serif;"> Octavia. What would happen if grounders kill them after his action? After that could you say that he attached grounders army because this was the best thing for his people?

<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-family:"CalibriLight",sans-serif;">He repeat the same mistakes he did in S1 over and over again. It was mistake first time but after third? What is that? How stupid he actually has to be when he can’t realize that he is  <span style="font-family:"CalibriLight",sans-serif;">doing bad  <span style="font-family:"CalibriLight",sans-serif;">after have 1000 dead people because the choices he made? And you could be sure that the next time when he had to choose instead of his people – he will choose the best for him, not for them. That is who he is. And in that hadn’t anything bad if people and writers just stop glorifying him. Putting him in the middle between good and bad make him more miserable and obnoxious than he should be. Writers never give to us as viewers whole motivation behind his actions and when even the actor who plays him  <span style="font-family:"CalibriLight",sans-serif;font-weight:normal;">sometimes  <span style="font-family:"CalibriLight",sans-serif;">doesn’t know what inspire its actions. For what we talk about? We just speculate. You want him to be the guy who learns by his mistake. I want he to be the guy who pays for his mistakes and reaches full glory (S1)or oblivion (S3). Everything else are just words without base.

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