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JCB95 wrote: Dinoking745765 wrote:

JCB95 wrote: Ok so I've spent the past few days contemplating how I feel about the finale, and I've decided it sucks and is the worst season finale of the series.

First off for all the hype the battle between wonkru and the prisoners got through out the series the end protect was disappointing. We only got 2 mini skirmishes in both episodes and to top it all off no one from wonkru died except for redshirts. Also how was Miller able to participate in the second battle after being shot? Can we please have some wound consistency?!

Next there's Murphy. Now I know a lot of people like him and he's one of my favorites too but I think his death would have been great in this episode. Him staying behind so no one would have to risk their life to save him would have shown his Evolution and how he cares for his fellow survivors.

Next there's the whole destruction of earth and going back into space thing which is where the episode goes down hill for me. Now I know Mccreary is supposed to be a sadistic sociopath but the destruction of earth was just a repeat of last seasons season finale. Only difference is a person caused the end of the world not natural causes. First off the 2prisoners with Mccreary didn't realize how crazy he was and didn't try and stop him? This whole episode was just a rehash of last season and beginning of this season. End of world happens, people have to go to space to survive, something goes wrong so they can't return as planed, and theirs a kid introduced who is is the child of someone from the 100.

Last there's Monty and Harper. Now I understand why they didn't go into cryosleep and it makes since for their characters but I still believe Christopher was treated poorly. Monty was a really underused character who deserved better. Christopher is a great actor but Jason and the writers put too much stake in Clarke Raven Murphy and the Blake siblings that Monty was pushed to the background way too much. I wouldn't care this much if Monty was a recurring character but he was a main character! Plus he has next to zero rememberable scenes. I also think chelsey wasn't treated well. I think she should have been promoted to Series regular before Echo. She's been on longer and contributed more to the overall story. Now I know I might sound like a Lexa fan but I see this as different. First off Monty was a main character were Lexa was a recurring character. Second Lexa has about 20 rememberable scenes compared Monty who had next to none.

Finally I honestly feel like Jason and the writers aren't really sure what to do anymore. They're just in atailspin just throwing things in hoping they work. My prediction for season 6 is they go down to the new planet encounter inhabitants like grounders and it's just a repeat of season 1. If they add actual aliens then I might be done with the show cause that makes zero scenes. I know you wrote this a long time ago, but you're one of the people on this wiki who also do really long summaries like me so I will respond to you because I respect you in that accord.

I agree that the battle was a bit lackluster and I wish that a war would have come to pass, but all we've gotten this season was completely lackluster conflict between main characters where they shouldn't exist. I feel as if they didn't do a good job in setting up everything, but rather tried to "redevelop" characters, and that didn't need to happen. So first point, agree.

Second, I don't agree Murphy had to die because of the way you described it. Him surviving was not something for him because he was willing and able to die in order to get his friends to safety... but this showed more development in Monty (after a rewatch) saving the person who was about to kill his best friend Jasper. I think they tried to close out Monty's character on a good note, so Second Point, slightly disagree.

Third, YUP. I agree that the destruction of Earth was completely unnecessary because it makes the rest of the season anticlimactic. I understand from a storytelling aspect what was trying to be accomplished, a form of irony. However, they did it a season too late. Also, rewatching, it never is explained until it is actually done what McCreary was doing. His friends doing nothing to stop it made sense, because even though we, as an audience, knew what was going on (that's dramatic irony) I don't think his friends did. So agree with you third point.

Lastly, I'm going to be a bit impartial. Someone needed to die, and sadly that "someone" was Monty. I understand what you're trying to get at with Monty being underused, and I 100% agree. However, it's because we got so invested into this character that this scene works. I already showed my praise for the end of this season and how I think it is a perfect closer (being as flawed as it is). Even thought Monty was underused, people that watch this show are fans of the 100... true fans. And those true fans love Monty because he was a great character all throughout the five seasons. He seemed to be the one character that was somewhat untouchable, he never got into any fights except for the one in season 2 and he shot his mother in Season 3. Other than that, his character has been a much less tortured Raven, and that's why the end messsage with him works so well. I do agree that Echo and Lexa should not have more rememberable scenes than Monty, but Christopher had a lot of good scenes if you look closely.

As for your prediction for season 6, I kind of agree. Yeah, there's going to be people on the ground. Yes, it might be a rehash of Season 1, but development is what is going to make this time different. Now the characters know what is going on, as shown from the speech from Bellamy. So perhaps experience will be a guide. And I disagree with the fact that Aliens is too outlandish. The Pilot showed a freaking giant snake in the water (that was y'know never seen again) and the chestbuster worms in this season. I don't think Aliens are that farfetched.

Yours Truly,

Master of Angels The War part was 100% lackluster to the point it was worthless to the story. I do have to disagree though on the conflict and redevelopment. The conflict was ok, but the writers needed to polish some things up. Characters can be redeveloped TWD is about to do it in season 9. As long as you have good writers it'll be fine, but the writers on the 100 aren't that good.

My idea for Murphy dying was just a rough draft. I would definitely polish it up a bit. I don't think Murphy and Monty needed a moment to undo what Murphy said and did about jasper. We got that in the last season finale just the roles were reversed.

Earth's destruction was unnecessary, but I have to disagree about the irony. It came off more as Jason and the writers didn't know where to go so they just did the same thing again. I rewatched the episode and yeah Mccreary's goons had no idea what he was doing so it does make since why they did nothing. However after it was said what he was doing they still just stood there doing nothing. Also the first rule of storytelling is if you mention something enough it has to come into play later. So for me at least once mccreary started pushing buttons I knew they were using the bomb so the suspense was lost for me.

I understand your point but since Monty was so underused I feel it made his death lackluster. Since he was shoved in the background for Bellamy and Clarke no one cared about Monty till his death. His only rememberable scene was him killing his mom, you can't count all of season 2 as a rememberable scene.

The snake was just used for dramatic suspense in the pilot. It would have made since if they explored the animals more. The worms were just a poor mans excuse to mimic alien, but I attribute it to effects from radiations. Aliens make no since and there's no reason for them. I'm on the fence of keeping up with the show now, if aliens are introduced I'm probably done with this snow. Season 5 was utter garbage and a waste of time. Alright... that's fair enough. I would argue that Season 3 was worse than Season 5 but I kept watching Season 4. I'm curious as to what the future holds for the 100, as it may be its last season.

Nonetheless, Respect. Again, you're cool and I think we've gotten into a couple of debates since the conception of this site so it will be sad to see you go if you are done with the show.