Board Thread:Character Discussion/@comment-28398720-20160530203022/@comment-11565898-20161226153720

The issue with Bellamy (as it has always been) is that he has no idea what he wants or who he wants to be. He does hold himself accountable for his actions. That characteristic is what makes him constantly doubt himself and what forces him to follow those around him. Bellamy wants to be the “good guy”, but he has no idea how he wants to go about that. He wants to “save people”, but he doesn’t know how to obtain that. So he gets angry when people are hurt and he does the only thing he’s been taught to do; he fights. He goes to Clarke because she understands him enough to tell he isn’t a bad guy; he just a guy who has done bad things. As Kane said, Bellamy needs to understand why he does the things that he does or else he will always be lost.

-Jaha was planning on killing his sister though. It may not have been stated outright in the show, but based on the “just” legal system on The Ark, I doubt Octavia would’ve lived past 18(but that’s just my opinion). Again, Bellamy made a choice on whether or not he was willing to help his only remaining family. What he did was wrong (as shooting people is never right if it isn’t self-defense), but it was understandable. The difference between his actions and TonDC was that Clarke and Lexa could’ve saved those people, but chose not to. Bellamy couldn’t have saved Octavia without shooting Jaha. Neither actions were right, but again I understand them, so I find myself not arguing against them.

-You are absolutely right that Bellamy and Clarke were responsible for what happened to Charlotte. If Clarke hadn’t acted so rashly or Bellamy had stood up for Murphy then Charlotte could’ve survived. The only way I can defend this is by putting myself in Bellamy’s shoes. Bellamy was angry because Murphy could’ve stopped. Murphy didn’t have to chase after Charlotte. He didn’t have to put a knife to Clarke’s throat. Yet he did because he was angry (rightly so, but that isn’t my point here). Bellamy couldn’t save Charlotte, so he needed to blame Murphy. We see this a lot with Bellamy (I.E Octavia and Jaha, Pike and The Grounders, Finn and Lincoln). Bellamy doesn’t give much thought into his actions as he only acts on emotions. That is what stops him every time from getting his redemption arc.

Bellamy didn’t hate Wells particularly; he hated what he represented much like everyone else on the Ground. Wells wasn’t any different than Charlotte, but Bellamy understood what it meant to openly accuse people without evidence. He knew that keeping people in the dark was beneficial for the rest of the 100 (“Fear of the Grounders is what is building that wall”). Without solid evidence, the hanging of John Murphy was enviable.

-Finn wasn’t going to listen to Bellamy because Finn was in a position of power as well. If Bellamy would’ve tied Finn up and dragged him back to Arkadia, people would complain that Bellamy was a dictator who never let people choose. There was nothing that Bellamy could’ve done in that situation to prevent the TonDC murders.

-You’re right, he doesn’t think and it’s because he doesn’t know what he wants. As I stated before, Bellamy knows he wants to save people yet he has no idea how. He was tired of Grounders killing his people so he took action, not thinking of the consequences until it was over. That is what Kane was trying to tell him the entire season. Bellamy needs to know what it is he is actually fighting for or else he will be doomed to repeat history.

I won’t lie; I was upset with both Lexa and Echo over both the actions you have mentioned. Then I thought more about it and I understood why they did what they did. I’m still a little upset with Lexa because I don’t think she thought through her plan entirely as Mountain Men with Arkadian blood seems like a deadly combo to me. However, Lexa did what she thought was best for people. It was a strong leadership move and was an extension of Lexa’s character which I grew to love over the course of Season 3. Echo was the same way. I don’t like that she betrayed Skaikru (it’s a bias that most of The 100 audience has), but I understand it because for her, the Ice nation is her family. It’s just hard to see the main characters of a show get hurt is all I can say to my bias to Skaikru.

As for the Grounders in the Mountain, Lexa promised Clarke she would help Skaikru. She may not have known the exact state of her people, but Lexa doesn’t strike me as naïve enough to believe that they were left unharmed. She made a promise knowing that her people were harmed in some way. As for Clarke and Bellamy, the Arkadians were weak as well. They had small numbers that kept decreasing as more of the delinquents were drained and their bone marrow was being stolen. Bellamy was in no position to stand with the Grounders when his own people were dying under his nose. You make it seem like Bellamy left children, when the grounders have proven themselves to be more than capable of defending themselves. Yes they weren’t at their best, but neither were the Arkadians. This goes back to your point of judging Lexa for saving her people though you want to judge Bellamy and Clarke for doing exactly what Lexa did. I have no doubt that Bellamy would’ve returned for Echo had he not been preoccupied with trying to save his own people alongside Lexa getting the Grounders out of the Mountain.

<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:12.0pt;line-height:115%;font-family: "TimesNewRoman","serif"">-The thing is though Octavia wasn’t afraid of Bellamy, she was angry. She didn’t seek to educate him like Kane did, but rather to scold him on his awful choices. Bellamy killed the grounders because he like Pike, was manipulated by fear and lack of control. In Bellamy’s eyes, the grounders proved themselves to be untrustworthy time and time again. Gina’s death was the last straw for him. You forget that Bellamy was left to deal with the repercussions of the Mountain alone. He was the one who put the delinquents back together so that Arkadia could go back to being run by Abby and Kane. It’s why Kane kept saying Bellamy was “the key”. Bellamy held a lot of weight on his shoulders and without Clarke there, that weight crushed him. Bellamy didn’t want Lincoln to be a part of anything Pike was doing. What Lincolns death came down to was choosing one’s people. Lincoln was Bellamy’s person, that’s why he went to Octavia to tell her what Pike was doing. Is Bellamy a contributing factor to Lincoln’s death? Although it could be argued, I feel he was. That’s why he let Octavia beat him up. He understood her anger because it’s what had felt after Gina died. Did Bellamy try to save Lincoln? Yes, he did. He went to Miller and Harper because he didn’t want Lincoln, Kane, or Sinclair to die. He helped stop the riot at the funeral where Lincoln had a rock thrown at him. He tried to stop Lincoln from going into the medbay when Pike was moving the wounded Grounders into the prison because he was trying to protect him. Bellamy never wanted Lincoln to get hurt, but nevertheless, Bellamy is still a contributing factor in Lincoln’s death because his following of Pike is what made Pike a legitimate power.