Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-27794543-20180801010831/@comment-13022928-20180803152051

Starforce13 wrote: @JCB95 most of your criticism seems to be based on the story YOU want to tell and not whether or not what they did is good and works for the characters and plot development that the show is doing.

It's like those people who always assume a character should always make the best choices in life. The truth is, they're realistic, flawed humans, who make mistakes and wrong choices, and get faulty equipment that doesn't work.

JCB95 wrote:

Miller getting wounded was stupid. After the Lexa fiasco we know they're not going to kill an LGBT character so why make it look like he's going to die.

Not everything in a show is about teasing death or creating suspense for fans whether a character will die or not. Miller getting hurt was supposed to serve two purposes:
 * 1) To make him unable to lead Wonkru back to the gorge since he's the highest ranking Octavia supporter left. As a result of this, Echo had to go get Madi.
 * 2) To amplify the urgent need for Wonkru to get to a place where they can get medical attention.

JCB95 wrote:

Indra should have been wounded instead of Gaia. Octavia seeing her mentor being wounded would have been more impactful. Indra being hurt instead continues to support Indra's theme of choosing to die in place of her daughter, which we saw in the pit. Octavia wasn't impacted because of seeing Gaia hurt. She was impacted by losing so many of Wonkru, feeling that she's let down Wonkru. That's what she cares the most about.

JCB95 wrote:

The scene where Octavia is going to sacrifice herself would have been better if she or Murphy died. Octavia not dying was more of a shocker than if she died since a lot of people thought Octavia would die. So, it would have been predictable. Plus not everything is about making emotional scenes with deaths. Sometimes it's about the next big story they want to tell. Like, think - if Raven died instead of just hurting her leg, we would have lost one of the most amazing characters and storylines.

JCB95 wrote:

Plus what was the point of giving Murphy the gun since it never worked. That was dumb. In the real world, people do get faulty weapons that don't work. The writers shouldn't just make everything work perfectly for our characters. Some things are supposed to work, some don't. It's reality. Besides, Murphy's machine gun worked - it just had the tendency to explode. And that was done to lighten the mood in an otherwise tense episode. Murphy has been the character with some of the funny moments this season.

JCB95 wrote:

Also Octavia realizing she broke wonkru happened too fast. She should have come to that realization in the finale. Octavia didn't just realize she broke Wonkru. She's known that since the moment she torched the hydrofarm. That's why she hasn't even been trying to act as their leader since then. They simply pretty much followed her. She admitted it out loud now instead of the finale because that's the turning point that's going to be critical in the final battle in the finale as she and Madi work together. It's not the story I want to tell I just think I'd make the story better.

We didn't need Miller being wounded to show urgent it was for them to get medical assistance. Alll we would have needed was to see them rushing a bunch of redshirts in. Also I think it would have worked better if copper was still around. Miller could still be wounded, but copper could serve as a casualty in the war.

Octavia could have been impacted by not just the loss of her people but also by her mentor/teacher being wounded. Indra being wounded by that horrific weapon could have been a massive blow to Octavia.

For me I knew she was going to survive. Octavia dying could bring her story full circle. Growing up in a world where she didn't it or belong now she's found a place that she feels like she belongs going out for her people she would be a hero. I wouldn't of cared if Raven died her story has been stale for 3 seasons now.

I understand that weaponry can be faulty, but Shaw is with them. Your telling me he doesn't have the slightest idea of how to work the gun. I don't believe that. I love Murphy but he's annoyed me this season. He's just doing the same thing, he shouldn't of been the same character he should have been more of a team player the whole season. Also none of his scenes this season came off as funny just him being a a**whole.

If she was supposed to realize she broke wonkru when she burned the farm down they didn't do a good job of showing it. The scene just came off as Octavia showing just how dark she can be. At that moment she was unredeemable for me.