Board Thread:Spoilers/@comment-25440448-20150312215244/@comment-50.167.134.154-20160204124459

'“likewise, it was in lexa's best interests to throw away tondc to the missile because, like you said, it would achieve a greater purpose: defeating the mountain. “'

I don’t think it achieved a greater purpose, only that Lexa thought it would. They killed 250 men, women and children to save…how many Grounders in the mountain? Their plan was never to destroy the mountain only to kill the leaders and rescue the captives, the mountain would still be here today if not for Clarke. Lexa allowed an entire village to be wiped out to save some Grounders in cages and allowed their leadrs to live. I guess blood must really not have to have blood.

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'“ ultimately, it's in lexa's best interests to keep the skaikru safe, least of all because of clarke's status as wanheda, which i'll touch upon later. “'

Your argument says it’s Lexa’s best interest to keep Skaikru safe, but then you only talk about why it’s in her best interest to keep Clarke safe. Last season she wanted to annihilate the Skaikru. What changed? One word: Clarke. She needs Clarke to repair her damaged image and doesn’t seem to want to kill her to absorb her power like the Ice Queen does (I’m hoping that’s because shecares about her but who knows with her). Also, she may very well recognize that part of Clarke’s power is as a masterful strategian and that she may need that with the upcoming war. Clarke did, pretty much singlehandedly, come up with the plans to burn 300 of her warriors, to help the prisoners escape Mount Weather and to ultimately destroy the Mountain. Lexa was mostly just the manpower and stood by and watched Clarke work her magic. And, after all, Clarke did outfox Lexa herself after being abandoned at Mt Weather, earning herself the title of Wanheda and making Lexa appear as a dishonorable, weak leader who now can’t even keep an alliance together that you yourself believe should obviously benefit those who are part of it (I’ll touch on this later).



And remember, the Skaikru itself has some pending trouble which it is not in Lexa’s best interest to protect:  a power struggle by crazy farm station guy who wants to kill all Grounders and the colonization of Mount Weather. The Skaikru is actually a pretty loose canon because unlike Grounders who have lifelong leaders with spirit changes, the Skaikru elect their leaders and as we see in modern-day America, different leaders have different goals.





'“in this s3 case, however, the ice nation is clearly breaking away from the coalition, if the army marching on polis is any indication. from this, it's clear that clarke will have 2 different choices: side with the ice nation or side with lexa in the upcoming war, b/c it's pretty obvious war is coming. and ultimately, clarke chooses to side with lexa.”'

Clarke and her people can side with Lexa without her bowing to her. I’ve seen it happen, last season. Lexa wants her to bow because she wants it to be put on display that she has control over Wanheda because her position has been weakened due to the events of Mount Weather. I think Clarke should side with Lexa, but bow to her? Um, no. No one has control of Wanheda. Lexa is suffering the consequences of her own bad choices. Now she wants Clarke lower herself in order to hold on to her power. Lexa needs Clarke just as much as Clarke needs her. Clarke needs to take a stand for herself and make sure Lexa knows she and her people will not be trampled on and betrayed just to so easily and willingly come back for more. Clarke is in a rare position of power right now and needs to use that to her advantage.

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“there's an even higher chance the skaikru will be fighting a two-front war, if they get in lexa's way and she now has absolutely zero obligation to help them.”

Lexa has no obligations to any ally. She's proven that. You may think she'll honor her obligations but she's proven she won't. Also, it’s clear from the trailer that the Ice Queen isn’t coming for the Skaikru first, but for Lexa. So at this point Lexa is just trying to protect her own butt. Those weren’t Skaikru bodies we saw by the hundreds in that trailer, those were Grounder bodies. And yes, after the Ice Queen takes down Lexa, it’s true she’ll be coming for the Skaikru, but they have options. They destroyed Mt Weather and have the technological capacity to both fix and colonize it. The Skaikru is pretty dumb if you ask me. I’d be in that mountain right now, trying to at least seal the door if not repair the acid fog.



'“it was the immediate solution lexa could have come to. this isn't the kind of deal she could spend a day or even an hour ruminating over the ramifications; she saw a way to get her people out with no losses at all and she took it. how is that not logical?”'

Because when you make a deal and dishonor it, you hurt your standing with every other person who you’ve made a deal with, including the Ice Queen who I’m sure was waiting for her chance to break the alliance. Ultimately, her decision is going to lead to a greater number of deaths among her people. I think Lincoln said it best, “She left our allies to be slaughtered. She dishonors us all.”  And this is why that was a dumb move, if your other allies know you’re willing to leave an ally to be slaughtered, why would they even agree to an alliance with you? You’re a dishonorable person and you would turn your back on ally in a second if it meant saving a few Trikru. And that’s why it wasn’t logical. She cost herself much more with the betrayal than she would have if she’d honored the deal. And I believe we’re going to see the ramifications of that play out this season in armed conflict.

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'“and if clarke did manage to defeat the mountain men (which she did) the mountain men would all die? (if they'd lived, that'd just be another threat for the grounders to contend with, and possibly an even greater one at that, because they'd be running loose across the ground now with the full tech of mount weather to back them up.) so it's a win-win for lexa here. i don't quite understand your point?”'

<p class="MsoNormal">The Skaikru would be a greater threat now if they would utilize the mountain and that’s not a win for Lexa. Having an enemy you betrayed control the same tech that subjugated your people for decades is not a win. The problem with Clarke defeating the mountain is this: Mt. Weather  was the glue that was holding the alliance together. The 12 alliances banded together due to the threat of a common enemy, sort of like Russia and the U.S in World War II. Without that common threat (Hitler), there’s nothing stopping two former allies from now facing off against each other (Cold War).

<p class="MsoNormal">So, her betrayal was definitely a loss for Lexa but I’m happy about that, for now. From the trailer, she does suffer the ramifications of it at elast some. Hopefully she can get everything back on track, but you reap what you sow.

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<p class="MsoNormal">"and idk how true this is, but it's been said by alycia debnam-carey in a tca interview that lexa always knew clarke would come out of the mountain alive. (if that's the wrong interview, well, it was one of those. :p)"

<p class="MsoNormal">I agree, I don’t think she thought Clarke would die, only her people in the mountain. She probably thought Clarke would walk home like everyone else did.

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<p class="MsoNormal">'“but then why should the ice queen dishonor the alliance? an alliance is literally supposed to keep you safe; 12 clans are stronger than 1.”'

<p class="MsoNormal">This is similar to my answer above, but J.Rothenberg probably explains it better than me:

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<p class="MsoNormal">http://www.tvguide.com/news/the-100-season-3-spoilers-jason-rothenberg-clarke-lexa/

<p class="MsoNormal">Rothenberg:The Ice Nation are militaristic, atavistic. They very much want to expand. They do not like the deal that they made to join Lexa's coalition in the first place. They did that out of necessity because Mount Weather was just as big a threat to them as it was to the rest of the clans. Lexa had that big bad out there that she was able to motivate 12 other clans that to overcome those personal needs to join together. It was never harmonious, but it was at least something. Then in one afternoon Clarke took Mount Weather off the table and suddenly that big bad that was out there that kept the Ice Nation and the Tree Crew from each others' throats was gone, and that old animosity this season begins to bubble back up and cause a lot of problems because the Ice Queen (Brenda Strong) wants everything.

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<p class="MsoNormal">'“If she cared about the skaikru why not take the offer to protect them to the groups chancellor? offer? to the chancellor? what? was this in s3e01? i seem to recall the only time lexa was mentioned was when bellamy and lincoln were discussing lincoln's banishment or something?”'

<p class="MsoNormal">This is from the trailer for 3x03. If you want to make a deal with another nation to protect their people you speak with the nation’s leader not the nomad under self-exile. If Lexa’s primary purpose was to strike a deal with the Skaikru she would’ve proposed that to Abby first. Her primary purpose was clearly to get Clarke to bow to her and she offered the incentive of a peace deal to try to persuade her and clearly from the picture it worked.

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