Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-5575784-20180801003619/@comment-13022928-20180912003456

Dinoking745765 wrote: JCB95 wrote: You hit the nail on the head when it comes to shipping and ships.

As for Clarke I really enjoyed her character this season, but do agree it feels like she's done a complete 180. I think if they hadn't had a time jump it would feel more natural. The change of becoming a parent changes a person drastically your priorities and the people you care about change.

As for Bellamy was handled well but I completely disagree with him being madi's father figure. Him not recognizing Octavia is realistic. Also I can believe that he saw Octavia as too far gone to try and understand and pull her back. If he saw her as a danger to his family (spacekru) he'd think it's too dangerous or not worth it thinking with his head not heart.

As for Octavia I don't think she was ever thinking with her head. She came off very impressive this season, just making decisions and shooting from the hip. Her status on the arc made her feel like she didn't have a say in things. So she tried The grounder way when she got to the ground. The grounders didn't except her or allow her to have a say either. When she became the red queen she saw it as her way to finally have a say, get the respect she deserved, and she enjoyed it that she was willing to do whatever it took to make sure she remained in power. We agree on Clarke. Cool. I thought that would be the one that threw people of the most.

Your point on Bellamy is pretty strong but I go to the quote "Blood is thicker than water" to defute the fact that he doesn't also consider Octavia his family.

Your call on Octavia being a power-hungry dictator is a flaw in the writing. I feel if we got more development from the Bunker rather than just two episodes, then maybe she would be easier to sympathize with, but instead she fell victim to the thing I like to call "Pike-syndrome". Leading up to the season end, I agree she did what she had to in order to stay in power, she burned Monty's solution, which was a perfectly sound solution. But again, that's a flaw in the writing, because they wanted to have the closing finale with his death. I do believe Bellamy still considers Octavia family. I think if you look at the people he considers family, and put them on a list Octavia would be towards the bottom of the list. Considering what she did I could understand him putting her lower on his list. In real life there are people who don't deeply care about everyone in their family because of things they've done.

Like with Clarke I think the timejump hurt Octavia's story telling. You're right 2 episodes weren't enough, especially outing the dark year episode so late in the season. Personally I didn't feel bad for Octavia, and it annoyed me that she blamed Abby for her turn to the dark side. Abby didn't hold a gun to Octavia's head and force her to make people eat. Abby just gave her the advice and Octavia choice to make people eat. The writing for the show is flawed and that's my biggest problem with the show in general it's written at an elementary school level.