Board Thread:Character Discussion/@comment-28398720-20160530203022/@comment-28151443-20170101124723

- Bellamy saved his own life in S1 because he talked with Jaha and told him the name of the guard who wanted his death. Why couldn’t this work for Octavia too? He had the gun that guard gave to him and information about mission to the Earth which is more than that he had when he talked with Jaha in 1x08.

- I don’t said that he hate Wells. I think he like him a little but Wells just wasn’t enough important to him as was with Murphy, Finn or Lincoln later. He wasn’t part of his people and this is the reason why he didn’t deserve justice. Wells’s murderer could walk around them – around his little sister because the wall and their imaginary “enemy”(they hadn’t enemy before 1x06) are more important than human life.

He pushed Murphy. Bellamy gave him the confidence to be who he was. Murphy was used by Bellamy in the same way Aurora Blake was used by guards. And when Murphy wasn’t useful to him anymore, Bellamy threw him like a rubbish. What would happen if Clarke was said that was Octavia’s knife? Charlotte’s one? Would he hanging them too as he did with Murphy?

- It was Bellamy job as a leader to make him listen his orders. Finn was a soldier. Finn was part of his people and while other part was missing and maybe dead, it was Bellamy job to protect him as he wanted to protect the others. He could lose Finn too but this hadn’t matter. The missing part of his people was more important to him than Finn who was there and was still alive. If Bellamy was chose to be “dictator” 19 people would be alive.

- And he return for them but was too late. Their plan to save prisoners in MW was stupid. While grounders have to fight for their freedom, the delinquents were hiding which wasn’t a lot fair. He could return and find grounders dead and no one thought about this possibility like it never existed.

- Octavia’s anger always is reaction of her fear or desperation. People judge her because she abused her love ones but she doesn’t hit everyone who gets in her way. She never hits Jasper, Monty or Clarke. She hits Lincoln and Indra but this doesn’t smash them – they find strength to keep fight because that is the way of their people. The despair and disappointment were the basis of her actions against Bellamy. She beaten up him because he was her brother, not leader or a follower. Her brother who killed these people, betrayed Lincoln and left her.

She is too harsh too often but that is because her past. She lived with her mother and brother in small box where she couldn’t have secrets by them. They gave her that freedom in her expression with them. To act differently mean to be a liar. It’s a family thing, that they are on the ground, without their mother don’t mean that they aren’t family anymore. This is her brother how she could act differently with him after 16 years?

- Bellamy was alone because he wanted it. It’s normal to want something like this when you suffer. Clarke did it. Raven, Jasper and Monty too. But Bellamy never was really alone(Octavia was always there for him (1x06, 1x10, 2x15, 3x05, 3x15)) as Raven, Jasper and Monty never hurt people because they are sad.

- As I said in last post, the characters have dreams about their life on the ground. That Bellamy doesn’t know what to do with his life, it’s his problem. No one could come to him and give him purpose as Pike did(It was too beautiful to be truth). He have to find it alone. Here he would be really alone and lost but at the end of the way, there will be his friends or he’ll find new ones.

The problem is that he can’t destroy dreams of other people because he is too afraid to be alone. It’s an infantile and cruel manipulation “If you leave me I will start killing people”. They all had right to find their happiness with or without him. With his actions Bellamy took by Kane something he wanted and deserved from so many time. And it’s no truth that he follows him. When Bellamy have to choose Kane or someone else, someone else always wins(we saw it in S2 and S3 with Abby and Pike). As he didn’t try to stop Lincoln, he hid the true from him which isn’t more differently by a lie. Bellamy lied his friend and act like Lincoln didn’t know nothing about his own people, like he’ll let some of them to get hurt by grounders. Octavia to get hurt which after everything  he sacrificed to save them all, including Bellamy is abusive. As he knew that the Arkadians don’t accepted his sister because her haircut and clothes but he go and start killing people with who she could find new home.

- His offer to help them came too late. He made everything possible to lose their trust. How could he accept that they will believe in him when he didn’t believe in them first(as Bellamy accepted Murphy to stop when Bellamy didn’t stop and hanging him first)? It’s a circle and the guilty have to break it.

This is a parallel which repeats over and over again during the seasons with different characters(Yes, I can condemn all of them(without Roan, Dante, Maya, Ontari and Tristan) and it‘s a criticism actually.). Try me! :D :D :D

 Someone tries to transfer the responsibility to someone else but it isn’t so easily how it looks. Bellamy who went to Harper, Miller and Octavia, were refusing to take responsibilities for his actions. “I came to you...” and they were so bad when didn’t trust him. It isn’t matter because he was a good brother, friend and leader at the end. I mean HE CAME TO THEM. Octavia hadn’t 16 years of reasons to believe in him because 16 years she didn’t live with a killer and traitor. He wanted to help them. But he didn’t do it, Monty did it. And maybe would be surprise for everyone but Monty helped them without go to Harper, Miller or Octavia to look for their trust, love, understanding and forgiveness. He helped them without asking them for anything and in the same time he was risking everything because that is what friends do when you need them. Pike could hurt him and no one could help him then. What was Bellamy risking when he crawl to Octavia?

We could agree – he doesn’t think and this is his the biggest problem(although we could disagree with everything else which remind me “What is the great goodness that he achieved with death of 1000 people after he hadn’t any dreams for their life on the ground?”). He could be amazing character and his past is the perfect prerequisite for that. It’s not so tragic as people think. He was just babysitter but this don’t mean that their mother didn’t care for her children. She loved and protected them. It’s no matter if he will be more hero or villain type of character. Bellamy need very good based to be who he is and for now it is missing.

Don’t worry in this show hadn’t deaths with revenge plot but it had a lot of deaths with “I don’t know what to do with you anymore” plot. They had many ideas what don’t do with him but death isn’t there. The death of 1000 people and his insanity have to be pay for me, it’s no matter who he wants to be or how good are his intentions. At the end of the day everything he has is just good intentions. There isn’t balance in his storyline. He spins around “taking decisions without first think – People died – “I’m so sorry”, “I didn’t want it”, “I tried” plot – Everyone forgives him – He takes a decision without think again”. The TV shows don’t kill their golden boy after they fails so royalty as Bellamy does it. It isn’t just him – they all have died because they learn nothing by their mistakes. This plot would be refreshing. It’s not A.L.L.I.E. that killed us, we killed ourselves every day. There is no hope in man who killed 1000 people and continues to think that it's the best he can do for his people, betrayed his family and friends, refuses to be loyal to his leader and steal the future from everyone else. It would be deserve end of the story about our tragic nature.