Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-26601629-20170905230106/@comment-71.120.10.154-20170924201947

To be perfectly honest, the writers have no idea what to do with octavia and as a result, she keeps jumping from one ex machina to another, lol its unreal. I understand that tv shows can be unrealistic, so we can pass over how someone who barely went to school, was able to pick up grounder language in 3 months. But lets look at the ex-machinas I can remember from Octavia kom Ex Machina

Superb Figthing Skills

Unless I missed something, how did octavia get so good at fighting? That she easily able to kill 3 trained grounder warriors instantly. The official story they go with is that Indra trained her. First, Indra has only hype going for her, all of her fight scenes have been underwhelming, there is absolutely nothing to suggest she is a good fighter, except hype. Even if she is, when exactly did she train octavia?? Octavia was her second for 1 or 2 weeks tops, which they spent travelling to and from tondc and mount weather and getting bombed, barely anytime for training. At mount weather Indra releases octavia. At start of season 3, Indra catches skaikru up on clarke's bounty which was implied to have been up since the mount weather incident, meaning she hasn't seen them since then. SO WHO TRAINS OCTAVIA LOL. Not lincoln, since they never talk about that.

SkaiRipa

What did octavia do to earn this nickname. So far as I remember, it was kill the ambassador from Illian's clan. Just one kill, and it was under questionable circumstances since no one saw it (behind closed doors), then how could it have been attributed to her. Sure some people suspected it was her but even still just one kill? The grounder kid clarke couldn't save in season had more kills than that IIRC. This is important, because it's not just a nickname, it's what earns her renown amongst the grounders (they even knew her as far as illian's village). That renown plays a part in her becoming the current commander, because it will be difficult for the grounders to accept a nobody.

The Conclave

Bellamy: "We have no one trained in grounder combat". I laughed at this when he said because I knew what the implication was and it was absurd. Really? You have bellamy himself that was trained by Lincoln for 3 months, to the point where he had lincoln down for a second (by lincoln's own admission), you have kane who has been shown to be kinda the leader of the guards on the ark, and has shown the physical capability to restrain Bellamy before, the guards on the ark rarely used weapons so they had to have been trained in h2h combat, they were also trained by lincoln. I'm sure there were better candidates, but of course octavia had to be chosen because we need to do something with her character. There was no logical sense to that choice, which is why Clarke had to go try make a deal with roan, and then eventually take the bunker. Now Physical Prowress aside, Octavia has repeated shown SkaiKru that she doesn't consider herself one of them, she has done this over and over and over. The very last time the saw her, was her deserting them. Then she just comes back and becomes their champion? For real??. She doesn't want to be skaikru regularly, but now she wants to represent them?!! It just makes her character all over the place.

Commander

What we discussed before. When she came and said i'm here for the war, she might as well have said i'm here to be commander, because it felt like a slap to everyone who had been working their ass off to survive.

Octavia kom Ex Machina became plot in the last 2 seasons.