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Aydilrecu wrote: JCB95 wrote: Aydilrecu wrote:

JCB95 wrote: I definitely think this season is not as good as people are claiming. However I do agree with Clarke leaving Bellamy and Indra to die. Bellamy betrayed her and put her child in danger Any other parent would do the same. Clarke's responsibility is to protect her daughter and keep her out of danger. When you become a parent things change your friends (Bellamy) aren't your priority. Plus he went against her so what Clarke did is understandable. As for Indra she was an accomplice and Clarke doesn't owe her anything.

As for mentioning the dead it should only happen if it fits the story overwise it'd feel forced. Octavia is probably too far gone that mentioning Lincoln would be a waste of time. Maybe even she outlawed mentioning people who died. Besides jasper was mentioned and what point would mentioning wells, Finn, or Jake serve in terms of storytelling. I agree with you that the names shouldn't be mentioned unless relevant to the plot, otherwise it would make their deaths less worthy and cheap. However, I honestly think mentioning Jaha and Lincoln wouldn't be pointless. If Octavia truly is too far gone, her lack of response to someone mentioning them would emphasize how much she's changed. And if she does respond with some level of remorse, it would highlight her inner struggle between Blodreina and the Octavia we used to know.

Also, although I understand that being a parent changed things, it doesn't remove all emotion to those who used to be your family. Her anger is completely justified, but her lack of emotion or remorse towards the entire situation and actions leading up to it are simply scary. Regardless of how violated and hurt she may have felt towards Bellamy and Indra's choice, I don't feel it justifies her being neutral towards their deaths. Bellamy risked killing his sister for Clarke's "daughter" and his friends, and risked his own life multiple times for Clarke in the past (she did the same for him). I don't believe all that can be overruled by a decision that didn't even pose an immediate threat to Maddie's life.

Even if you love your child more than your sister or brother, you wouldn't be uneffected by their deaths, even if they posed a death to your child. Prioritizing one person doesn't justify indifference towards all other humans. Six years is a long time she only knew Bellamy for a few months compared to 5 years with Madi. Octavia was an immediate threat to Madi if I was Clarke I would have done the same thing. You betrayed me put my child in danger you brought whatever is coming on yourself. Bellamy only cares about protecting spacekru he doesn't see Octavia as family anymore that probably made it easier for him to hurt Octavia. Of course, Bellamy still sees Octavia as family! You can see it in the way he still tried to save her life from Gaia even after she put him in the pit. I understand that she knew Bellamy for less time than Madi, but that doesn't sever the connection she had to him and the rest of Spacekru. She was trying to establish a connection to them every day for years on end. That doesn't change with one action. As betrayed as she may have felt, and as much as she may have wanted Bellamy out of her life, it doesn't make sense for her to feel nothing towards his death.

Maybe that's why I don't like Clarke's character, because we're so different.

I also want to say one last thing about how you compared the time Clarke spent with Bellamy relative to Madi, and how that makes her closer to Madi. If what you're saying is true, and time spent with someone is directly correlated to closeness, Bellamy would certainly care more about Octavia than Spacekru as he spent at least 16 years with her (assuming she was 16 when she got imprisoned on the Ark). All of the main characters are struggling with each other because they've all turned into completely different people who don't understand each other. In the dark year Bellamy states that he's not helping Octavia get to the valley for her he's doing it for spacekru. He then goes on to say that once everything is done he's moving far away from her. That line alone proves Bellamy is done with Octavia. He might have spent more years with Octavia but she's changed so much and he's tried to understand it all,but she pushes him away. At this point Bellamy sees Octavia too far gone. Who you see as family can change overtime especially in the apocalypse. Take Rick and Shane from TWD. They started out as brothers but then Shane switched to a darker side like Octavia and Rick was forced to kill him for everyone's protection. The season should end similarly where Bellamy is forced to kill Octavia for everyone's protection.

Clarke radioed him everyday prior to his betrayal. Her feelings were different then. Once Bellamy betrayed Clarke her material instincts took over to whatever it takes to protect Madi. You don't get in the way of a momma bear protecting her cub she's going to do whatever it takes even if it means leaving people to die.