Talk:Charles Pike/@comment-26601629-20171019195848

i feel people never really consider Pike's action according to his point of view. He was by no means a bad leader. He did everything he did to save his people. Kane and Abbey are more responsible for the whole Pike situation if anything. I really feel that if Clark was there at the time, or if jaha was there and not chipped, they would have been able to prevent the whole thing, because so far, jaha and clark haver been the best leaders, jaha edging clark in experience and clark outdoing jaha in sheer strategic brilliance and unshakable conviction.

From Pike's point of view, the 100 arrived on the ground and they were getting killed( he might have been in the know). Then he arrived with Farm Station in Azgeda territory, and the Ice Nation immediately descended on them with brutality, killing children and the like, the harsh reality caused Pike to harden, much like clark had to do in the earlier seasons. His leadership kept the Farm station alive and more like a military unit that had no love for the grounders, again much like the 100 in season 1, meaning he had no idea of the peace talks with the grounders something that the Ice Nation obviously never respected, you could even see how they treated some of the farm station captives as slaves. And even though when he arrived he was told about the peace between the grounders, he saw no evidence of it, the grounders, abandoned them at mount weather, they placed a bounty on clark's head for a stupid reason, and they even went as far as bombing more than half of his people at mount weather. from pike's point of view, all he saw was grounder oppression. And to be honest, he was right. The only reason clark and the main cast took the oppression is because they had seen the full grounder army, and knew it would be impossible to take the army, serving as a deterrent. But pike had not seen that army, so even he didn't have that. Next thing for him was seeing an army of 300 people surrounding them. Yes maybe they were there to protect them, but alliances were fragile, they could just as easily have been ordered to kill them, which in fact is what happened. Pike was not entirely wrong, it was just a case of the right thing at the wrong situation.

He was clearly a smart and capable leader, and should have been kept on as the leader of the guards, with clark being the overall leader. He made logical decisions, unlike octavia who makes stupid decisions time after time, and gets passes for it because she's a main character. At least she has the excuse of being young, naive and raised under the ground, but i wonder how long that would be valid for. The character that is just unbelievable is octavia's mentor, Indra. An extremely incapable leader, hasn't been shown to be a good fighter, doesn't make any particularly bright decisions, combat-wise or situation wise. Her solution to everything is kill kill kill. I don't know why the character wasn't killed off. Frankly, it's scary that she and octavia are leading the bunker, lol even their first executive decision was to eliminate everyone that can operate the bunker and keep them alive. It was shocking really. she froths at the mouth with hate that it's sickening.

So pike was just a leader of the times, Octavia on the other hand has been mudering people for no reason or stupid reason, and we're cool with that right?

Overall, pike is a much better, character, person and leader than octavia or indra are