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108.21.88.134 wrote: I love this episode. It's not only because it has great fight scene ( take a look at how Luna jump sideway dodging a warrior then slash him down, awesome!), but almost everything happens for a reason. In my opinion, there is not one character acted out of his/her character. All of them did what they did because who they were and  things happened to them.

This comment will be a little long so please bear with me.

The most controversal thing is about Luna. People don't understand why she suddenly turned so dark and wanted everyone to die. Remember last season her lover died by her own hand and in the early episodes this season her whole clan died of the black rain and praimfaya? Everyone she really ever cared was gone. She went with Clarke and others to the island because she still had a little faith in them, thinking Skaikru was not like other tribes. The journey changed her mind. She realized that Clarke and others were just as bad as the mountain men, maybe even worse. Therefore, in her mind there were no longer any good people existed. All those clans and Skaikru were just fighting for their own selfish reasons. The conclave's rule proved it further. Only one clan could use the bunker and they had to fight to the last death to get it. From her point of view humanity was not worth saving at all.

Some says there were thousands of innocent people in each clan. Luna was willfully ignorant. That's exactly her! She ran away of being a leader like Lexa. It showed her ignorance of the good side and fear of her own darkness. So when she came back, she would be back to the one who killed her brother in order to win. It shouldn't be such surprise that she didn't want to save anyone.

Clarke was being the typical selfish "my people only" Clarke. The ending was surprising but it was a brilliant turn of events. Indeed we should have anticipated her doing such a selfish thing. Was she the one who killed all innocent people in the mount weather? She pulled the level, knowing that more people will die to save "her people". This time it was exactly the same. She moved all "her people" into the safety of the bunker and let thousands die outside. It was exactly the same logic like last season, only different in the method. At least in the early episodes she did try to save everyone but failed. It was also like mount weather because she believed that she had no other alternatives, except she didn't expect Olivia to win.

Now it's time for Olivia. All other 12 clans sent their best warriors, who started fighting maybe even before walking. So how come Olivia were the winner? As this episode depicted, she was no match for any of those warriors. Oftenly she got knocked down and hurt. She survived fighting by running and hiding, which was very un-warrior like. She was unique in her situation because she almost like the only warrior in Skairu, and she practiced hiding all through her life. In this episode the writers didn't give her unrealistic super fighting abilities, which they should get some credit for. The finally back-stabbing of Luna made her a winner, but if Luna were not affected by the black rain, she wouldn't even have any chance of back-stabbing.

It was interesting to see her changing her mind about the bunker sharing. In contrast of Luna, who saw nothing but bad in each clan, Olivia knew at least her brother risked everything for her, she knew that Illian loved her and protected her, and she even thought Roan, her worst enemy, had honor to fight equally. So in her mind humanity were pretty much remained intact and worth saving. And every clan should have their share. I think the final confrontation of Luna, the extreme darkness of Luna also contributed to her decision of sharing. It's the fighting in the conclave that cleansed her, turned her from an aimless ronin into a leader. She was OK with 2/3 of Skaikru people had to die in order to share the bunker, simply because she didn't consider herself part of the clan, which was also an unique situation among those warriors. So her suggestion was a surprise to other clans, but it shouldn't be a surprise to us the audience.

Bellamy might be the worst plot hole in this episode. He didn't have those ninja skills to hide and sneak like Echo. How did he pass all those guards was really beyond me. The reason he did that was also ridiculous. If he spot someone cheating, the best way to act was to tell the game controller, Gia, so she could send in more guards to investigate. It might even lead to a disqualification of Ice Nation. But Bellamy had to take it upon himself to take such huge risk of him and the whole Skaikru clan. The kidnapping near the end also made little sense. How did the kidnapper know Bellamy was in the safezone and exactly where and sneaked up on him from behind? I think the kidnapping is just a plot device which is necessary for events in the next episode. It was a very unwise move of Clarke or Jaha, because Bellamy would never agree to this betrayal and it certainly would blow up in their faces soon.

People here say Echo and Indra should have fought in the conclave. You guys must haven't follow the series closely. Echo was more a spy and she clearly showed her inferior to Roan last season. Indra was seriously injured and was not able to fight well. We all saw her being very upset about it. So it was only coherent that Roan and Fio were in the conclave but not Echo and Indra. I believe the writers loved Roan, but they had to sacrifice him because only Olivia was immortal, there couldn't be two.

In the recent episodes Roan had changed from a dirty venomous viper to a self-righteous man. His changes were hard to explain. Maybe being a king could really transform such a sneaky bardstard into a knight in shining armor? I don't really know. I think the writers could have done a better job for him. He should be the one who ran away from the rain, and Illian be the one who fought Luna and drown in the water, and Echo the one who got an arrow in her throat. Great episode review. Totally agree with what you said about Luna, I feel that the people saying her change was a 180 haven't been paying attention to her character.

Clarke and Jaha's decision was extremely stupid, and I Jon it blows up in their faces. I also just noticed it, but Clarke's decision was almost identical to the deal Lexa made at the end of season 2. She chose to save her own people instead of everyone which is what Lexa did. Clarke was mad about that, and I hope that is referenced next episode.

Bellamy's story arc was definitely plot device, the only reason I believe the writers had him do what he did, was so he could get to the bunker.

I'm the one who started the Echo indra thing, but had my reasons. First I thought it would be awesome to have a Octavia Echo rematch where Octavia wins. Besides being a spy Echo was a royal guard tasked with protecting the monarchy which I doubt is done by average warriors. So if she would have been at a disadvantage. As for indra I forgot about her recovering from last season, but still think she should have gotten llian's death. To have Trikru a clan that we've known since season 1 be represented by such a minor character as Fio was kind of ridiculous in my opinion. Indra could have been like yeah I'm injured, but I'm in charge of my clan so no one fights for me. Also her death would have been more impactful and emotional for Octavia and fans in my opinion.

Roan was a great character, and went out like a champ, and had one of the best arcs of most characters on the show.

Finally I'm glad to see another fan give their review, and not just say how great the episode was. As fans it's our job and right to say what is a great, and what is done wrong. Too often I see fans just talk about the good, and ignore the bad of an episode.