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KeepOnKeepingOn wrote: Ivana Cvetanovic wrote: KeepOnKeepingOn wrote:

I mean... I dunno what else to say. I liked it, to each their own. But I respectfully disagree, and say that this season is not CWing the show. Is it flawed? Of course, nothing's perfect. Do all the love interests make no sense? Yeah, they don't. It's clear they're solely for plot progression though. Clarke briefly getting with Cillian was so she could become vulnerable to be Josephine'd. Jordan and Delilah was basically our introduction to Naming Days and putting Jordan on some semblance of an arc of... actually I don't know his arc, cause he's been absent for a while now. I agree with most of your post.

Except Cillian was never a "love interest". Bellamy is Clarke's love interest. Cillian was a one-night stand because she wanted to move on and have some fun (seriously, she hadn't gotten any for over 6 years). The 100 is pretty clear when characters just have sex without any romantic interest (e.g. Clarke with Niylah and Cillian, Raven and Bellamy in S1, Bellamy with Roma, Bree and some anonymous girl), for fun or comfort or as a rebound or some other reason. There's nothing strange or unconvincing about a one-night-stand coming out of the blue, since that's what one-night stands usually are like.

Delilah was Jordan's first love. He's an adult, but he's grown up without any contact with anyone other than his parents, so he's emotionally similar to a young teenager. It is really not surprising that he fell in love with the first girl he met who showed some interest in him and wasn't his family or 'family'. And Delilah knew that her life as she knew it was never going to be the same, even if she didn't know for sure she was going to die, so she had that relationship as her swan song, more or less. "Except Cillian was never a "love interest". Bellamy is Clarke's love interest. Cillian was a one-night stand because she wanted to move on and have some fun (seriously, she hadn't gotten any for over 6 years)." Um, I'm aware of what a one-night-stand is. I never at any point called him her specific love interest, if anything I'm calling him a plot device. (I grouped him with "love interests" because it was, well, love-making and seemed related enough) Her and Cillian having fun together was to put Clarke in a situation where she would be left vulnerable, so she could be taken and implanted with Josephine's mind-drive.

Also, no, I respectfully disagree; Bellamy is not Clarke's love interest. The two are incredibly good friends, and if they had feelings for each other, they likely would've acted on them by now. Bellamy is with Echo, and Clarke is... well, probably gonna find someone eventually. Not every male lead has to get with every female lead. And if I'm wrong about this in the future, cool. But as it stands now, I don't see it, and I respectfully say that they're just friends.

And I do agree with Jordan and Delilah, you make good points and yes, that does put their arcs into better perspective for me. I just wish the show could've developed it a little more instead of rushing through it in two episodes. Yes, Bellamy is Clarke's love interest. If you think otherwise, you must have not been paying much attention. (The show really hasn't been that subtle about it, at all. They even straight up showed Clarke looking hurt and jealous when she learned about the fact that Bellamy and Echo are a thing. In two scenes, one of which was an exact copy of the season 1 scene where she learned about Finn and Raven, and that was the less obvious ones.)

Which would also explain your statement that they "would have acted on it" by now. Um... when?

Season 1 lasted less than a month, half of which time they spent as antagonists, while Clarke was reeling from her unlucky fling with Finn. Then they started getting closer (and flirted during the Unity Day) but then during the next week or so, they had to deal with the epidemic/biological warfare by the Grounders and the upcoming battle. And then Clarke had to close the door on Bellamy and Finn and thought they were dead.

Season 2 lasted a bit less than 3 weeks, all spent in trying to rescue their friends from Mount Weather. Clarke and Bellamy started it separated and thought the other may be dead, then reunited in a huge hug - but immediately had to go save Finn, then spent 2-3 days around each other dealing with the Finn drama. Then after Finn's death, Bellamy proposed that he go to Mount Weather (it was a plan he came up with a couple of days earlier) but Clarke told Bellamy not to go, because she couldn't risk him, and that she couldn't lose him, too. (After Finn.) But she was struggling with her grief and guilt and seeing hallucinations of Finn after mercy killing him, and when Lexa told her that "Love is weakness" that one needs to repress, she started to think that way for a moment, too, so she told Bellamy that he should go to Mount Weather after all, because she was "being weak" when she told him not to go. (Episode 2x09, and the show already said in text that Clarke loves Bellamy and compared her freelings for him to those of Finn, but they are just "best buddies", sure. ) Then he went to Mount Weather and they spent the next 10 days or so separated, except when they talked on the radio, and she was worrying about his safety. Also, her next love interest, Lexa, questioned her about her feelings for Bellamy and the fact that she cares about him and worries about him more than the others - a couple of scenes before kissing Clarke. (I guess she must have been jealous of Bellamy's BFF status. huh.) Bellamy and Clarke only saw each other again in the finale, in Mount Weather, where they only had the time to kill the Mountain Men to save their people and themselves. Then Clarke told him goodbye and decided to leave and roam around on her own for months, because she was too broken.

Season 3 started after a time jump of 3 months and lasted about 3 weeks. Clarke was still roaming around anonymously, before Roan kidnapped her for Lexa. Bellamy tried to save her, and they saw each other for the first time after  3 months... and it lasted for about 5 seconds (in a scene that looked 99% like the scene where Rapunzel is saved by her love interest in Tangled) before Roan injured  and wanted to kill Bellamy, but Clarke begged for his life and agreed to stop fighting and let him take her to Queen Nia to be executed (as she believed). Their next meeting was a week later in Polis and lasted about 5 seconds, again. A lot of bad and dramatic things happened, and their next meeting was a very painful 5 minutes in Arkadia that involved shouting, tears, accusations, and the two of them stroking each other's wrists while gazing soulfully into each other's eyes (as all BFFs do...), set to Tree Adams' tune called Bellarke Theme (they like giving romantic music to BFFs! I wonder why Jonty didn't get one), before he handcuffed her and she probably assumed he wasn't forgiving her for leaving 3 months before. Then Clarke went back to Polis, had a brief thing with Lexa, Lexa died, and then their next meeting was when they were trying to save Raven from ALIE. They spent about 3-4 days around each other that season, with Jasper and Octavia and the others, going around and trying to find a way to defeat ALIE, and had a make-up hug right before Luna's people found them and interrupted them. They defeated ALIE in the finale and immediately learned that the world would be ending.

Season 4 lasted about a month and a half. Clarke and Bellamy started it together, trying to think of what to do about Praimfaya. He also heard her tell Abby that she loved Lexa (and both the camera and Kane, for some reason, focused on Bellamy in that moment). Theyhad some tender moments when she made the list, but then separated again when she went to Becca's island to help find the Nightblood solution. Bellamy started to tell Clarke something, but got interrupted, and for some reason, we never learned what it was. They only reunited in Polis, 3 days before Praimfaya, right before the final Conclave. Bellamy helped Octavia, Clarke got desperate and stole the bunker, there was a lot of drama and she threatend to shoot him to stop him from opening the bunker, thinking that it would save the human race, but couldn't. Then she spent 4x12 focused on him (and ignoring her occasional friend with benefits Niylah to the point of not even saying goodbye) and hoping he would forgive her. She went with him to save Raven. (They had less than a day to do that.) They made up in the roveron the way there, but immediately bumped into a Grounder and vwere attacked. Skipping over other stuff that happened, in the season 4 finale, they had just a few hours to save themselves and go to space. They had some heartfelt moments where he comforted her, there was another intense hug. She thought she was dying and they had their head and heart conversation. Then Bellamy went to help Murphy save Monty while Clarke went to the tower on another task, and she wanted to tell him something (Raven and Murphy were there), but when he interrupted, just said "Hurry".

And then she saved them but he thought she died, and they were separated for 6 years and 1 week. While she talked to him on the radio every day without answer to keep herself sane. (That's not a romantic trope, nope, not at all.) While he believed she was dead and mourned her, and was still reeling from that loss 6 years later. He forgave Echo after 3 years and they started a relationship at some point. (While stuck on the ring for years with just 5 other people, 4 of which were paired up.)

Season 5 lasted about 3 weeks. Bellamy and Clarke had an epic reunion with the "She must be imporant to you" - "She is" - scene, and another weirdly intense reunion hug. (Diyoza thought they were a couple, because, well, everyone would think that.) But he was with Echo. And Clarke looked heartbroken when saw them together (because that's how we all feel about our bros when we see them with their significant others). They spent a few days around each otehr. Bellamy was finally moved to poison his sister (non fatally) and put her in a coma only when she was about to execute Clarke, and Octavia taunted him saying that he was again pleading for the life of a traitor who he loves. There was misunderstanding and betrayal/perceived betrayal and angst. Clarke thought he betrayed her and left him to die. A few days later she learned he was alive, from Echo (whose biggest scene all season was a conversation with Clarke where they talked about Bellamy), and that's what spurred her to come back to herself and stop allying with McCreary and betraying everyone. The final push came from FlameLexa telling her, through Madi, that betraying Clarke at MW was her biggest regret, and she shouldn't make the same mistake as she did - i.e. betray the person she loves. (I guess Lexa has a bad memory and thinks that she and Clarke were just good buddies, so she compared her feelings for Clarke to Clarke's feelings for her best buddy, Bellamy.) In the finale, Madi made Bellamy forgive Clarke by telling him about the radio calls, which made him understand that Clarke did care for him to a great degree. Clarke was willing to wait for Bellamy for the last moment while the missiles were about to hit,  while he waited for Monty, Emori and Murphy. Then they had a brief and warm conversation before everyone went to cryo sleep. They were woken up by Jordan, who played them Monty's videos, and the last scene of season 5 was Bellamy and Clarke looking at the new planet with tears in their eyes, as Bellamy pulled Clarke in an embrace and she leaned her head on his shoulder. (As everyone does with their good bro. Right?)

Season 6 - started immediately after the season 5 finale. Has lasted about 10 days.

The first couple of days, they were around each other in Sanctum. Bellamy was still with Echo, although he keeps paying a lot more attention to Clarke every time when the three of them were in the same place (if I were Echo, I'd be very upset with that). Bellamy tried to ask Clarke about the radio calls, later Clarke told Bellamy leaving him was her biggest regrett and they had an emotional moment. And then Clarke got bodysnatched and spent most of the season locked up in her own mindspace.Bellamy was the first to realize she Josephine was not Clarke. He grieved and almost killed Russell when he thought she was dead. (Why didn't he think of his girlfriend? Monty and Jasper were best friends forever, but Monty never ignored or forget Harper because of Jasper, not did Jasper forget or ignore Maya or act like Monty was much more important to him.) When he learned Clarke was alive, he risked everything to save her. As Josephine pointed out, he cares about all his people, but a lot more about Clarke than any of the others. (Because it makes sense to care for your best female bro much more than about your  girlfriend.) The romance between Gabriel and Josephine was paralleled with Belalmy and Clarke, because that makes perfect sense with Bellarke being such good buddies and Gabe and Josie being... eh.

Then Bellamy literally brought back Clarke to life with his voice. They had another incredibly intense hug with huge heart eyes and they repeated "the head and the heart". As you do with your bros. But Bellamy is technically still with Echo since they never broke up... which is not surprising, since they weren't even around each other since 6x08. But in this episode, they had a brief hug where Bellamy patted Echo on the back (like he did Octavia the last time they hugged) while looking at Clarke. Well, that shows the great romantic bond between him and Echo, no doubt...

I'm confused as to when exactly Bellamy and Clarke were supposed to get together? During one of the battles? During the time they were separated? What was the good moment during those few days they spend around each other each season?

But nah, you're right. SInce they haven't boinked, they can't possibly be in love. And all the heart eyes, face-stroking, hand-stroking, intense embraces, romantic music, romantic tropes,  repeated comparisons to other romances, other people questioning or taunting them about their feelings about each other, all of this is pure accident. The writers, actors, directors, editors, cinematographers, and the composer all put it there by accident. Because that's how storytelling works. Bellamy and Clarke are just best bros, because that's how best buddies behave in real life or in fiction. Even though they have never even defined their relationship in the show. How odd, the show could have had them say "we're just friends" at any point and calarify this weird misunderstanding... but it didn't, for some reason.

... Oh come on. Get real.