Talk:Finn Collins/@comment-26832353-20150807153259/@comment-26247132-20150809200138

"Before that he hadn't made any romantic advances toward her."

He was making advances on Clarke before the drop ship even landed. What do you think him floating around in front of her and introducing himself to her was? Not to mention the whole nighttime forest scene or splashing around in the water with her or giving her art supplies. He was also flirting with Octavia that first day, "saving" Wells and putting flowers in her hair until he zeroed in on Clarke. Hell, by how nonchalant he was about everything, I wouldn't be surprised if this wasn't the first time Finn cheated on Raven.

"Clarke offered him comfort and an IMPULSIVE Finn took that comfort.  He wasn't thinking about mourning or telling Clarke he had a girlfriend who was going to die.  He was highly emotional and he acted without thinking."

Statements like these make me worry. What if Clarke changed her mind and decided she didn't want to have sex with him? Would he have been able to stop or was he so consumed by emotions he would have pressed on? If he could have stopped if Clarke asked him, then he should have stopped and told Clarke the truth.

Yes, sure, he and Raven had a different kind of love, blah, blah, blah. But when you love someone, regardless of whether or not you're in love with them, you don't purposefully do things that would hurt them whether or not they might find out. That's not love; that's selfishness.

"What I still don't get is why this unintentional screw up is such an unforgivable crime."

It's not the crime, but what the crime tells us of his character. Dishonesty is one of the most despised traits for most people. If you can't trust someone in something like this, then how are you to trust them with anything? Yes, others did worse things but they were pretty upfront about their actions and weren't deceitful. Bellamy did withholding some of his motivations for not wanting the rest of the Ark to come down (that he had shot Chancellor Jaha) but that information wouldn't have changed his actions nor the actions of others (in fact, most of the Delinquents might have cheered him). Either way, there was never any doubt in anyone's mind that regardless of the reasons, he was actively working to prevent the Ark from knowing it was safe on earth. Finn's withholding of information about both Raven's existence and the Unity Day meeting would have absolutely changed others' actions and choices. Because he didn't give them the whole truth, they were left with the consequences: Clarke unknowingly helped Finn cheat on Raven and the meeting with Anya was a colossal disaster.

"But it's Finn who gets called "the little bitch". I'll never understand people as long as I live."

Look up the definitions of "little bitch," f*ckboy, and tool and you'll see Finn fits most of the examples, even down to the "emotions made me do it" defense.