Talk:Finn Collins/@comment-76.17.103.248-20150704182642/@comment-76.17.103.248-20150705030228

Now, we're really getting somewhere. Why Finn didn't take time to mourn Raven is an interesting question. I hadn't considered that. I do believe that Finn sincerely cared about her, though. We saw the things he did for her in Spacewalker. He saved her life both by sharing his rations and taking the blame for the space walk. He also stayed by her side and gave her support during the surgery. But I think the extreme circumstances might have something to do with his behavior that night with Clarke. Like I said, Finn was impulsive and he wasn't coping very well even then, hence the tantrum. I think he needed that comforting, and he truly had strong feelings for Clarke. That might not excuse it, but it might explain it. I don't think he MEANT to disrespect either of them. BTW, Finn told Raven he needed to talk to her, but put it off when Bellamy called him to help find Octavia. Then when he tried again, she already knew.

Fast forwarding through Finn's scenes is some kind of hate. Wow! The only character I find it hard to watch & skip her scenes is Indra. She's just so hateful and sadistic that it's disdurbing to me. But since you don't remember, Finn did apologize to Raven more than once. And Raven, bless her heart, forgave him. Before he died, he told Raven that he never meant to hurt her, & she said she knew that. Finn apologized to Clarke too, and tried to talk about the situation. But, unlike Raven, Clarke had her own trust issues and was afraid to give him a second chance, even though she loved him. But based on everything else we were given about Finn, he wasn't the kind of person to not care about how he treated the people he loved. After all, he gave up his life for them. So it's unfair to say that he wasn't genuinely sorry. He was human, and sometimes he screwed up like all of them did.

I remember Bellamy sitting on the bank while the others looked for the radio. When they found it smashed up, all he said was "I told you it was too late." When Clarke asked him if he cared about those people, he flipped her off with "I helped you find the radio." All he did was reluctantly tell them where to look. When he saw the bodies coming down, he said "All I know is my sister is missing..." His conscience finally got the best of him, and I do believe he was later  sorry. But so was Finn. He admitted that he might deserve to die for what he had done. He was so afraid that the massacre defined him, and he was no longer the morally decent person he wanted to be. He was ready to face death as long as Clarke was okay and she forgave him. He turned himself in when he knew he'd be tortured. If that's not remorse, I don't know what is. He sacrificed himself and paid the ultimate price. What price has Bellamy paid? He may be trying to redeem himelf, but only Finn willingly did that with his life.

It's interesting. I was more appalled by Bellamy's behavior than Finn's. Yet, I never hated Bellamy or held a grudge. He was monumentally selfish, and he acted deliberately with forethought. But I don't fast forward through his scenes. They all did terrible things, not just Finn. So I can only  assume that cheating strikes a more personal chord with some people. I find using Finn as the personification of that is a strange perspective, though. Still, thank you for helping me understand the thinking on this. That's a very interesting point about the mourning.