Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-29929311-20160912190346/@comment-95.83.253.182-20170105230346

99.195.148.98 wrote: I'm accusing the actors of being biased based on them showing preferences. Which they do. And, again, is ok. If you don't think it's ok for a human being to have preferences then I don't know what to tell you. I don't like actors in general, I don't understand the celebrity of people who've done something so small compared to many others in the world. But actors are people first and foremost, and I think these ​poor people are just trying to survive this crazy fandom with their careers intact. So more power to 'em...I just wouldn't trust them. Actors and writers lie. I know, it's hard to believe but there you have it.

ME, YES! I do ship Bellarke. Of course, that means all my opinions are null and void. I mean, it is known that ​all Bellarke fans only see Bellamy when he's with Clarke, and Clarke when she's with Bellamy. The rest of the show is just a blur. Wait, what was the plot again?

I've shipped Bellarke since 1.08 and I saw Clarke with Finn. Then I saw her with Lexa. I also saw Bellamy with Gina (well, more like acknowledged and appreciated since we didn't get to actually see​ anything) which was a relationship that lasted longer than Clarke's two previous relationships combined.

Futurewise? No, I don't see them putting Clarke in yet another new relationship. Why would they do that to her character? These poor kids haven't even been on the ground that long. This show has maybe ​three seasons left, and I seriously doubt it'll get that many. Best bet would be one, but I'm hoping for two. So why would they pull out another new relationship out of nowhere? Do we need a new character for her every season? I would rather her be alone for the rest of the show, until shown otherwise in some sort of epilogue, than see that.

Oh wait, there's someone she already has an established relationship with and whom she has known and trusted longer than anyone else on this show, except for her mother (or Raven. I reserve the right to hold on to my Princess Mechanic crackship). Is it romantic? Is it platonic? That's something this fandom has been going back and forth on for eons. Lets not do that here, we've got better things to discuss.

"It hasn't been woven into the story well at all." That's your opinion, which I accept. I just disagree, but you already knew that.

Bellamy ​was an ass in season 3, wasn't he. I mean, it was almost like he was human and let his emotions get the better of him, making a monumental mistake that he can never take back. That never ​happens in real life. Especially with the heightened circumstances that the show is set in. I really wish his character hadn't been thrown under the bus to prop up others, but it was and I won't ever forget what he allowed himself to become. And hopefully the writing won't either. But considering some of Bellamy's lines to Pike himself, and then after he'd broken away from him, I don't think it will, and neither will Bellamy.

Characters being toxic to one another is a recently popular argument for shippers to fling back and forth at each other (along with abusive). Everytime these words are used merely to prop up or tear down fake relationships, it belittles the suffering of people experiencing actual toxic and or abusive relationships. Please give reasons why you consider Bellarke "toxic" and we can discuss it. Otherwise, don't just use the word because it's something you saw on twitter/tumblr.

Something we agree on, Clarke has been through enough​. Girl deserves some time to relax on a tropical beach. But considering all tropical beaches are about to become irradiated wastelands, my guess is she probably won't get it.

If a romantic Bellarke relationship happens, I highly doubt it would be a fling. These two people are friends, they care and respect one another. Starting a sexual/romantic relationship with a friend can be dangerous, so I'm assuming they would take it much more seriously than that. I think if a fling was ever going to happen, it would've happend in season 1, but I believe we're way past that now.

I did not ​know Luna was Lexa's cousin (thanks for the info). I think that makes it even less likely to happen though. One, people are already making complaints that Luna is too much like Lexa, and starting a relationship between the two would, imo, give those arguments actual merit. Two, really it's sort of my argument from earlier, I don't believe they're going to start Clarke in on another new romance when, to me, there's one there that's already been slowly building from the beginning. Obviously you don't see it that way (as them building Bellarke) so I can't give you any more than that.

Thanks for generalizing. I appreciate it. I'm sorry my giving reasons for my own differing opinions offends you so much. I thought this was a forum where all fans of the show can discuss it despite difference of opinion? I do accept the show for what it is, but this is a thread titled ''​Bellamy and Clarke. When are they gonna get together?? ''​(I'm not sure if you noticed that) so I'm giving my opinion on why/when I think it will happen. You and other's think differently, so we discuss it without name calling (congrats, you didn't do that) or generalizations. That's how discussions work. No no, I am sorry that I disagree with your view and you got offended because clearly you did. As you say this is a discussion thread. I didn't see the words 'for Bellarke fans only' written on it. I thought I was permitted to say as far as a ship goes, it hasn't happened and I don't personally think it should. And congratulating me on not calling you names is a bit disrespectful to other users like myself and quite frankly patronising considering you don't even know me.But I will answer your demands as best I can from my perspective.

Firstly, you deny my perspective and claim you do accept the show for what it is. I find that hard to believe since you contradicted yourself by basically admitting you only watch in hope for Bellarke and as you quote; "what was the plot again?". Clearly this shows where your main interest lies so no I don't consider myself to be wrong there.

Now, firstly I must tell you I love this show. Believe it or not I love it more than TWD, GOT, you name it, doesn't matter, The 100 is my favorite, it has everything I could want from a show and more. Unlike you I try not to put a limit on when I think it will be cancelled but rather savour every moment that it still exists,

Now in saying this, I am a HUGE Lexa fan. I didn't think a female character could come better than Clarke until she showed up. I must tell you I never supported Flarke. But I never particularly supported Bellarke, at the time I just seemed that it would be the best of a bad selection. But when Clexa happened I was surprised....it caught me off guard. But I LOVE being caught off guard. And when it did happen I was like damn there is real chemistry here. It was like they already knew eachother, they were so alike in their way of thinking. I note that Lexa repeatedly told Clarke; "I know you Clarke". She could predict her emotions, train of thought...I firmly believe nobody really understood her as well as Lexa did. And of course it was promoting the whole LGBT side which was nice to see. I liked the forbidden love storyline and considered it romantic like Romeo and Juliet, just with 2 girls. You know, the two lovers who were practically born to be enemies, whose tribes hate eachother  and who frown upon it but the two pursue it anyway. I really wanted a happy ending for Clexa. I wanted them to defie Romeo and Juliet. I wanted them to defie the fact that lesbians almost always die. It didn't. So to lose Lexa was a huge blow, I am still distraught and feel we should have seen her for more than the little she featured. And of course season 4 will be  difficult to watch in that sense. But either way, I still love her, would root for any miracle possible and I still love the concept of the show so I will still watch.

In terms of not believing whole heartedly in actors I get that. I openly admit I am not a fan of Alycia Debnam Carey. I don't follow or support FTWD. Because truthfully, she is nothing like Lexa in real life and isn't really someone I look up to. In regards to Bob and in particular Eliza, yes I agree it was probably unprofessional to outwardly reject Bellarke which Eliza has done in many an interview because I wouldn't appreciate if she did it with Clexa, I am just lucky she has always been supportive of them. But I like the way Eliza is not fake, that she doesn't pause and alter what she says. She's real, she wouldn't lead people wrong and to be blunt, she doesn't give a rats behind. I like that about her.

Now back to Bellamy. No, again you judge me unfairly. I did not look to somewhere online to link the word toxic and Bellamy together, I deducted that from my own viewing of the show. But if you say you have seen it, perhaps others have the same perspective as me. Now Bellamy on his own I never particularly had any strong dislike for as a whole. But it is the moments, the dark moments that make me think no. He definitely has a dark side that I don't like. One where he just seems to lose sight of his emotions and become numb almost. You remember him in early season 1 right? Bellamy the bad boy. I kinda questioned who someone could go from torturing people for fun and then turn almost completely soft and reasonable. But when Bellamy began to get better, I put it down to him finally growing up and getting wiser and I accepted it. But then season 3 his dark side that I by now completely forgot about, came back. For me, he just seemed to switch off his emotions and turned his back on everyone, nearly even, his own sister. Slaughtering the grounders that were at the border there to protect him and his people with hardly any mercy shown, Indra nearly left for dead but spared solely for Octavia. Lincoln was practically killed because of Bellamy who made no attempt to intervene. He became heartless. And he became racist towards grounders in a very severe way. So I don't believe that this side of him was a once off or a fluke, I think it is part of him. And Clarke as you know, learned to accept the grounders, was in love with one. And she has had a hard time. Being with someone like Bellamy would lead to a toxic relationship in my opinion. They will always differ in very important views. Not to mention, I just genuinely don't think there is chemistry. Clarke refused to go with him twice, once to be with Lexa.She didn't even look in his direction in any sort of romantic way realistically. So I don't think he would ever be her first choice, never her true love. And her true true love I believe, has already been and gone. I feel at this stage, her next choice if any, would be someone to settle for.

Now, regarding Luna. I believe anything can happen now in The 100. Ideally I would love Lexa back someday but here is what could also happen in the meantime which the writers might explore. Luna if you remember, had a lover who was killed by ALIE. She is now in the same position as Clarke, grieving over their lovers. Clarke loved Lexa a lot, I believe possibly more than Finn for the reasons I gave above and also because unlike Finn, when Lexa died, she wanted to bring her ghost back. And Lexa told Clarke I will always be with you. She led Clarke to Luna for the flame. But maybe she will lead her to Luna for another reason. And in some ways, Luna may be like Lexa and Clarke may settle for Luna as being the next best thing. This is a possibility I wouldn't rule out (along with the writers being possibly underpressure to make right the lesbian deaths scenario). They might do this and make it a happier ending, just a theory.

Roan is another theory. And tbh, it is one I could really see happening. I imagine that after her experience with two grounder lovers and transforming into one, Clarke might stick with the grounders. Roan is someone who she had some interesting scenes with in season 3. He is also someone who she knew, respected Lexa to an extent and protected her to an extent also ( scene where Aden's head is thrown on floor, Roan clamps a hand around her mouth when she goes to scream). Would I be surprised if he becomes a big part in season 4 regarding Clarke, nope. Especially since he has been made a regular.

No matter who it is I admit I will be sad to an extent because of Lexa. But I just can't see Bellamy and Clarke working out anymore, that is my opinion. But Bellarke fans seem intent that it HAS to happen because, well, they feel it should. It doesn't though, there are other options too.

But you want my opinion, I want to see Clarke alone this season. I am too seasick with the speed at which she is going through lovers. And Lexa was a special one, I hope she gets a lot of mention this season. I am also disappointed there was not even one Costia flashback. Some day perhaps.

Sorry about the length but I needed to get it all in and I hope I didn't leave out anything. But that is my perspective on things.