Talk:Finn Collins/@comment-26525483-20150626045543/@comment-76.17.103.248-20150630223752

The stretch is your speculation about Charlotte and Finn. There were very specific reasons that these two did what they did. Killing Wells had nothing to do with Charlotte getting mad over some kid not sharing his toys. It was specifically about the trauma of seeing her parents floated. Before she jumped, she said that she couldn't let anyone else get hurt because of her, "not after what I did." She understood that what she did was wrong, so much so that she sacrificed herself. That's not someone who is going to kill again over a toy.

Finn's crime was specifically against the grounders, not his own people. It occurred under extreme emotional distress over the loss of Clarke and the fear and distrust of the grounders. The fact that Finn didn't shoot the grounder who attacked him and Clarke in the forest when he had every right to defend himself is a good indication that he was not going to find it easy to take a human life again. He recognized his fault, and it's not likely that he'd be in those extreme circumstances again. Even if he were, he'd know not to make the same mistakes. The fact is that most people suffering from PTSD  are not violent.

Murphy is another story. He showed no remorse for anything he had done. He had a second chance and he murdered. That one I'd never trust. And I don't see how he's an asset now either.

As for Bellamy, would you have cast him out when he made people take off their wristbands and sabotaged the radio? That put everyone on the Ark and the ground at risk. At that point, the only thing consistent and predictable about Bellamy was that he would do anything to save his own skin and to protect Octavia. But it looks to me like you don't consider that a liability. It looks to me like you gave him a second chance. And he's a prime example of how people can turn themselves around. So why would Charlotte and Finn not be given that chance when every indication was that they recognized their faults and would reform their behavior, too?

And you can slice and dice it anyway you like, but Bellamy is responsible for those 320 dying. No matter what Kane, Jaha and the council had decided, the culling wouldn't have taken place if Raven had been able to contact the Ark and tell them the earth was survivable. Those 320 people died because of Bellamy's reckless, if not depraved indifference. That's what I'd charge him with if not manslaughter. He wasn't suffering from PTSD, or any mental impairment. He knew exactly what he was doing, and (unlike Finn who panicked) acted with deliberate forethought. If he didn't know about the culling, he knew the Ark was dying. He knew that if they didn't tell the Ark that the earth was survivalbe, they would all die up there. He knew the 100 would be on their own without weapons to face the grounders. But for you, that's not a liability. You trust him as consistent. I'm amazed that you don't see the double standard.

According to psychological studies, under the right circumstances, we are all capable of killing. You can't predict who would be a liability in that camp. For someone to think that they are perfect enough to judge who should be cast out is an arrogance under the pretense of practicality. We've seen too many of those people in history,