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Tammzz wrote: Chancellor1 wrote: Dinoking745765 wrote: Alright I made some notes during so here they are:

“So you’re going to strap her down and take her bone marrow. Welcome to Mount Weather.” Thank you Raven! Someone said it! I was really sick of them just taking Bone Marrow, I don’t care if you survive if you just lose yourself in the process.

“First we survive, then we find our humanity again.” NO! That’s not how that works! When you lose your humanity it’s a part of yourself you can never regain. I should know.

“Give us your guns.” Dammit Indra. She pissed me off this episode. Wasn’t it in Season 2 that Octavia said that if a grounder were to pick up a gun, even to shoot another Grounder, their entire village will be wiped. Season 4: Let’s just throw that out of the window and shoot to kill. It’s not like anyone is going to worry about what we said two seasons ago. Oh we do JR. We do.

No, Murphy, No! He’s still my favorite Character, and everyone’s just not thinking clearly. Like I said before, you can’t regain your humanity. The character for Murphy did an amazing job for this episode, but seriously. It's not even surviving anymore, it's just keeping their heart beating, no matter how dark it is. I think you are partially right, but I would still contend that they are doing the right thing putting survival first. Yes, they may lose themselves in the process... but it is a selfless sacrifice for the greater good. You may lose yourself, but you save the human race, and allow potentially billions of additional people to find themselves, and to start a new life. It is much less for thm about surviving this themselves, as it is about saving the human species as a whole. I will use Kane on the Ark as an example. He did many things that may be questionable, but he did them all in the name of saving humanity, which to his knowledge only existed on the Ark. If it took reducing to a cosmic Adam and Eve he'd do it, he said. But note... Kane cared little about whether he died in the process or not, because his survival wasn't his number one priority, saving the species was, and he was more than willing to sacrifice himself, morally and literally, to do it. It is that kind of leadership that is necccessary when the world is ending, selfless and stopping at nothing to ensure human survival. On the Ark Jaha noted that, hailing Kane as a leader the Ark needed. Clarke seems to have realized that same fact, and as she proved when injecting herself, she does not care whether she lives or dies, so long as humanity as a whole is saved.

This is one of the interesting dilemas of post-apocalyptic philosphy regarding survival, philospohy which has taken center stage on the 100. :) Yeah, after Clarke really got to be a leader, she finally understood what it meant to sacrifice for the greater good. I think it's more about experiencing it first hand, cause the old Clarke would absolutely condemn what they're doing now, but this Clarke, after 4 long seasons, understands what's really at stake when it comes to survival. Sometimes I really dislike Clarke's decisions but then I think about what I would do in her position and I realize I would do all the same things. It's really about surviving.