Board Thread:Suggestions/@comment-28398720-20160827152805/@comment-27794543-20160917055753

TotallyTinkerbell wrote: While I appreciate your enthousiasm I must tell you that it's the policy on this wikia to wait on a mutual agreement. I too want to implement these changes and move forward, but real life, timezones and technical errors might intervene, causing people to be unable to reply to your proposition. And so in all fairness, you should always wait untll there's been a final conclusion and mutual agreement.
 * @03:52, September 7 – proposition opened
 * @09:14, September 9 – after all 4 people involved voiced their opinions, Bugthe asked me to summarize the results, so I did
 * @09:08, September 10 – after Amethystkitten's further input, Bugthe summarizes consensus for season/episode line
 * @11:24, September 14 – 7 days after proposition opened, over 4 days after results with no objections, I state my intention to implement the changes unless there are objections. I intentionally leave 12+ hours for people to object, even though there has been 4+ days for people to voice their objections to the results & no one had.
 * @01:08, September 15 – since no objections, start implementation
 * @02:44, September 15 – finish implementation
 * @17:46, September 16 – 36 hours after completion of implementation, 54+ hours after I stated my intention to implement changes, 6 days after results were compiled, you state you weren't given enough time to object

If I gave people less than 24 hours to reply, then I could see your argument for "real life, timezones and technical errors might intervene, causing people to be unable to reply to your proposition". However when 7+ days were given, 4+ days after results were summarized, and no objections, then it's time to move on.

Since this proposition opened, all 3 admins edited on wikia. All 3 have edited since September 10, when the results were summarized. All admins were given time to voice their opinions. All non-admins were given time to voice their opinions. There is nothing in this wikia's policy stating only admins are allowed to define "final conclusion and mutual agreement" on discussions. This wikia's policy states admins are not in charge. Even on wikipedia, regular users conclude (& are encourage to do so) discussions all the time.

The thing I don't get about this wikia, is that I see people implement large changes covering dozens of articles without saying anything & no admin complains. Here I asked for input for over a week, giving 4+ days to voice objections to results, etc. I've implemented much larger changes on wikipedia that involved 100+ articles and took over 10 hours to implement with less hassle than this. Especially, since no one was even objecting here.

Also, given the fact that this is a template and you're aware of the existance of TemplateGate's, you should know better than this. TemplateGate is for locked templates. Since TemplateGate started, there have been over a hundred edits to templates with less than a tenth of them TemplateGate approved. Why? Because the templates aren't locked, thus TemplateGate wasn't used.

If there is a rule that only admins are allowed to edit templates, then you should lock all the templates to admins. If there is a rule that permission has to be obtained for certain/all non-locked templates, then that rule should be clearly defined and listed within policy.