Talk:Charles Pike/@comment-28398720-20170302173641/@comment-26601629-20170903101709

Very sensible post, Pike lacked both positive experience from the grounders and knowledge on their prowress. Both of these contributed to his actions. All of his actions do suggest he wanted to protect his people. He lacked positive experience from the grounders because he had repeated watched his people die, much like the 100 from the first season, and landed in azgeda territory, people who from the looks of things never respected Lexa's truce, so he had repeatedly been met with violence, after meeting the arkadia group, he chose to take their word for it, and watched the grounders both decieve them and firebomb mount weather, most of which contained his people. At this point he saw that the truce was fragile and wasn't really protecting his people. Kane should have made an effort to involve him in what was going on, his plans for the future and the precedent that made them become allies to the grounders. Most of all Kane should have expressed to him the extent of the grounder army (because I believe not seeing that army also helped put pike in that false sense of security), because, when you really look at it, even though pike's actions played a big part, he was still right. If the grounder army sent to protect them had still been there when ontari took over they would have been sent in to slaughter the people of arkadia.

Pike is still a better leader than the current idiots who lead the bunker Octavia, who knows only to blame people hypocritically for things she is also guilty of, and incessantly question and sometimes get in the way of people trying to save her (bellamy, clarke). And Indra, a person dominated by so much hatred, and bloodlust that she never seems to use her brain. I cannot understand how she became a leader of that village because its not for he brain, and certainly not for her battle prowress, because we have seen nothing to suggest she is even a decent fighter. She doesn't ever show anything impressive the few times she fights. For Christs sake she and octavia where about to open fire and massacre the ONLY FREAKING PEOPLE THAT COULD OPERATE AND MAINTAIN THE BUNKER THEY WANTED TO SPEND 5 YEARS IN. That is just a most basic example of how doomed people in that bunker shoulf logically be.

Pike never did anything out of selfishness, ever decision was made out of a cold and calucating thought process. He treated the grounder as they were not as how kane was hoping they should be. It would have worked best if Clarke was the leader, because she is always able to make all the tough calls, and come up with brilliant strategies, Kane was the ambassador, he was very gifted in trying to get people to act amicably, and pike being the leader of the guard, because he was ruthless and able to lead and motivate the guard to do what will inevitably be needed to be done, given the grounder's base mentality. Pike's only mistake was not working together with kane to amicably send back the 300 men at their 'doorstep', but that was on kane for not bringing him entirely up to speed when he realized the people where getting on pike's side.