Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-28398720-20160601214659/@comment-16845200-20160602003455

if you're going to call grounders primitive, you might as well call the ancient egyptians and ancient romans primitive while you're at it. hell, you might as well call the sky people primitive too.

here are the relevant definitions of primitive from google dot com:

prim·i·tive /ˈprimədiv/

adjective

1. relating to, denoting, or preserving the character of an early stage in the evolutionary or historical development of something.

the grounders are very clearly not in an "early stage ... [of] historical development of something."

the coalition. they're pretty damn organized. they have a hierarchy. they have a system of trade and commerce exchanging between, presumably, the clans (more later). in polis, we saw trade and bartering and a thriving city with commerce. (before the *ahem* sky people ruined it, like they do everything...) they traveled fairly long distances between villages and territories, which indicates that they have a form of reliable transportation that is able to take them places rain or shine. they are capable of farming and cooking their own food (re: polis market). they have villages all over the place. they aren't hunter-gatherers. they aren't nomadic. they're basically an agricultural society. i could rattle off a bunch of other stuff but for the sake of both you and me i won't.

noun

1. a person belonging to a preliterate, nonindustrial society or culture.

the grounders are literate and, again, have shown they have "trade and manufacture" and "general business activity." by almost all angles of the word, they have industry. industry is not just stainless steel and smokestacks and factories and pretty blinking freaking lights. you're gonna call the grounders "nonindustrial," you can go ahead and call your beloved sky people "nonindustrial" too. they're on the ground and they're farming their way through things (or, at least, trying to...) and, ugh i dont freaking know, making new clothes with thread and needles bc frankly i doubt that any potential sewing machines they had survived that crash. medical tech, nyko is a healer. they have medical technology. is it necessarily as advanced as the sky people's? no. does that say anything about their level of primitiveness? no. they survived this long, their healing has got to have some effectiveness.

what does that link have to do with anything. yes, their social institutions were overturned from pre-2050 and they had to live in fear of mortal danger. it's impressive anyone survived at all. (they still survived, though, and built a thriving society out of it, which bolsters my point further.) um. blah blah blah generation blah blah blah......im still waiting for the punchline.

i think it was mentioned on the other thread the connotations behind using the word primitive as well. read this.