Board Thread:Spoilers/@comment-25440448-20150312215244/@comment-16845200-20160204060519

This is just plain wrong. We've seen how Lexa will sacrifice some of her own people (allowing the bombing of TonDC) to pursue what she considers a greater goal. There may become a time when she is willing to sacrifice the skaikru to achieve another purpose. And its clear from her past actions she's not above making her own people a sacrificial lamb. Clarke is an idiot if she bows to Lexa thinking she'll honor the deal to protect her people. As you said, Lexa doesnt feel there is anything wrong with renigging on a deal, so wouldnt hesitate to do so.

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No,Lexa is using Clarke to try to repair the damage she did to her own standing. Hopefully, Clarke os smart enough to figure that out and is bowing to her as some grander scheme, not simply on the disproven hope that when push comes to shove Lexa will honor her word.

you can perceive this in differing points of views on lexa's interests at the moment - and really, lexa doesn't discriminate. i do believe my point still stands: ultimately, it's in lexa's best interests to keep the skaikru safe, least of all because of clarke's status as wanheda, which i'll touch upon later. likewise, it was in lexa's best interests to throw away tondc to the missile because, like you said, it would achieve a greater purpose: defeating the mountain. in this s3 case, however, the ice nation is clearly breaking away from the coalition, if the army marching on polis is any indication. from this, it's clear that clarke will have 2 different choices: side with the ice nation or side with lexa in the upcoming war, b/c it's pretty obvious war is coming. and ultimately, clarke chooses to side with lexa. given what we know about the ice queen, she's every bit as ruthless as lexa and far crueler; i mean, she literally sent costia's head back in a box to lexa. clarke knows this and, given her reaction to roan when she figured out which clan he belonged to, the ice nation in general has a very shady reputation. it would be stupid of her to pick the ice nation over lexa: ultimately, lexa is the best option she can choose to protect her people. even if she remains neutral, and doesn't bow down to lexa? there's an even higher chance the skaikru will be fighting a two-front war, if they get in lexa's way and she now has absolutely zero obligation to help them.

This is just plain wrong. Her Mt Weather betrayal wasnt just morally questionable it turned out logicially to be the wrong move. Think about it. If Lexa hadnt betrayed Clarke, the Ice Queen wouldnt be marching on Polis as we type. Lexa's betrayal not only made her look weak and dishonorable(as Lincoln mentioned in the s2 finale) but it also led to the total destruction of Mt Weather."

it was the immediate solution lexa could have come to. this isn't the kind of deal she could spend a day or even an hour ruminating over the ramifications; she saw a way to get her people out with no losses at all and she took it. how is that not logical? her people may think it dishonorable, and the ice queen is clearly using it as a reason to move her army against polis, but in the heat of the moment, was it really worth it for lexa to have brought the grounders into battle to save their people plus 47 of the skaikru? who, again, wasn't lexa's people? the coalition had far more to lose than did the skaikru. why wouldn't lexa take this deal? if the mountain men offers her a deal where all of her people come out safe and sound without a scratch (well, beyond what they already had on them), then lexa would be one to sacrifice honor for survival. this is lexa's duty: keeping her people safe. again, i bring up the fact that lexa does everything for her people. sure, she may not be adverse to using a small percentage as a "sacrificial lamb," but i would assume her logic in this is that it would benefit her people as a whole in the entire run, and that is what matters to her.

so yes, this was a morally objectionable decision. i agree. logically, especially in context of the situation, it was sound.

"Lexa was betting on Clarke failing, hoping that with Skaikru blood Mt weather would no longer need grounders. She gambled and loss, badly.

if mount weather used skaikru blood, the skaikru would be killed and the mountain men would also be able to walk freely? and if clarke did manage to defeat the mountain men (which she did) the mountain men would all die? (if they'd lived, that'd just be another threat for the grounders to contend with, and possibly an even greater one at that, because they'd be running loose across the ground now with the full tech of mount weather to back them up.) so it's a win-win for lexa here. i don't quite understand your point?

and idk how true this is, but it's been said by alycia debnam-carey in a tca interview that lexa always knew clarke would come out of the mountain alive. (if that's the wrong interview, well, it was one of those. :p)

Now her alliance is falling apart because her betrayal led to the total destruction of the enemy that brought the alliance together. By your logic, the Ice Queen should be marching on Polis, after all you think theres nothing wrong with dishonoring a deal for your people. why shouldnt the Ice Queen dishonor the alliance in order to break a coalition led by someone who doesnt even keep her word and who backed out of a winnable fight from their greatest enemy. If Lexa had honored their deal, she'd be the hero now, instead she looks like a failure and weakling.

but then why should the ice queen dishonor the alliance? an alliance is literally supposed to keep you safe; 12 clans are stronger than 1. the alliance would benefit the ice nation in every way possible: trade from the other 11 clans, economic benefits, political security, etc. etc. and lexa is the reason why everyone is still alive. lexa is the reason why none of the ice nation warriors, like echo, who were still trapped inside the mountain died. lexa is the reason why the ice nation warriors who were part of the attack on mount weather lost their lives and could return to their families, who wouldn't have to suffer the loss of a father, a mother, a husband or a wife or a child. however, the ice queen actively chose to betray lexa's coalition and used the mountain as an excuse. why would she do this? i have no clue. however, the ice nation and lexa have a history of bad blood, so this probably has something to do with it.

yes, the fight was winnable. but war is never desirable, especially in this day and age. lexa is a peacemaker; war is to be waged at a last resort. there are so many factors that have to be considered when waging a war; casualties, depletion of resources, public morale, etc. etc. would the losses to her army have been worth it?

If Lexa had honored their deal, she'd be the hero now, instead she looks like a failure and weakling.

and how does anyone know she isn't a hero to the civilians of the grounders out there? the people whose friends and families were returned to them, relatively unharmed and unscathed? warriors aren't pawns to be thrust into a battlefield. their duty is to die for the coalition, certainly, and all grounders know that and accept that, but at the end of the day they'll be leaving behind family and friends, and the loss of a loved one is never something taken lightly. something about war to consider: it's never the soldiers who suffer the most; it's always the civilians.

She doesnt care about Clarkes ppl, she needs Clarke to make her look good again.

would you rather lexa have killed her instead? you heard indra: there are people who want to kill clarke because they believe that by killing her, they will gain wanheda's power. if lexa'd killed clarke, no one would dare even instigate an uprising against her. why? because lexa, apparently, would now have control over death. clarke bowing in front of lexa basically gives lexa wanheda's power without causing harm to clarke herself. this would only further strengthen lexa's ability to protect them against the ice nation or whatever threats may arise. clarke's managed stayed alive for a few months alone in the wild; if she had a death wish, she'd have thrown herself off a cliff already.

If she cared about the skaikru why not take the offer to protect them to the groups chancellor?

offer? to the chancellor? what? was this in s3e01? i seem to recall the only time lexa was mentioned was when bellamy and lincoln were discussing lincoln's banishment or something?