Board Thread:Spoilers/@comment-187.147.63.39-20160304171849/@comment-176.92.65.17-20160310220849

NikkiNicks wrote: 176.92.65.17 wrote: Ok... Let me adress all the points you mention on the thread. The show is based (the first season at least and loosely so) in a book series! So JR and the writers kinda played with Morgan's childish plot (I've read the first two... The differences are bigger than the distance between the Arctic and Antarctica.) So the theme is dystopia/post-apocalyptic/Sci-fi... Out of those sci-fi was not used so much in the first two season so they made it up with the third.

'''- Why didn't Roan take Clarke to Nia to help her overthrow Lexa? He even tells Clarke when he gives her the knife that she's only heard Lexa's side of things. If Nia had Clarke, she could overthrow Lexa and take over the Coalition and unbanish Roan.'''

Roan believed Lexa would be true to her word and lift his banishment. When his mommy dearest decided to be a smartass and march her army towards Polis, Lexa changed the terms on him, making him a prisoner of war. In "Watch the Thrones" Roan clearly states that his mother doesn't care about him, more about her throne and power, so I find it normal for him not to make her his first choice for help. When he talked to Clarke, he meant that Lexa like any person, would exaggerate the truth to get her way when it comes to the enemy. Truth is Nia is ruthless, but she might have considered an aliance. However Clarke can't trust Nia, because she doesn't know her. Lexa is clearly more vunerable to her influence and since Clarke is a stategist, she would always pick Lexa (feelings aside). '''-Without using social media to find the answer, was Roan banished from Azgeda or from Trikru? And why? How? What?'''Without ever having looked for an answer about this, Roan was banished from Azgeda, but also by the Coalition law, Lexa's word could be enought to bring him back. Further details might come up later, since he disappeared after he became King of Azgeda.Who the hell is Gina and where did she come from?It's been three months and you need to read a little sub-text. Gina and Bell have "something" according to what happens later a relationship and we have no flashback of the 3 months that passed. When the flashback comes, we'll know more. Take it from someone who lives it daily. No write who wants to give a mystery aspect to the plot will reveal everything in one go. You will be brutally tortured until the revelation!'''And how long had her and Bellamy been dating anyway? A couple of weeks, all three months? What was their relationship like? What was her favorite color? If she's so important to the plot then make me care about her! (Otherwise, she's just a lazily-written plot device who got fridged.)'''Gina's death and development was a bit critisized because she didn't have enough screen time for the audience to care. Well's death was tragic, despite being on the third episode. But, again, we haven't had flashbacks and remember, Finn and Raven's relationship was explored on Season 2 midseason finale. Give them until the 16th episode to wrap-up. Most question should be asnwered by then. Today we hit midseason. '''Did Monty's dad really die the way they told him? If so, why were Hannah and Pike acting so suspicious about it?'''I don't think Hannah would turn serial grounder killer if she didn't have a strong motive like that. And it's hard for a mother to tell her son that his father and her husband whom she had a kid with, built a life with was filled with arrows. '''If this show isn't about romance, then why did Lexa need Clarke to change her bandage when her injury looked fine and she probably has an entire coterie of people to do that for her? And why was she in her nightgown?'''Because they wanted to build the intimasy they have. Let's face it, romance might not be the main theme, but it's always there (Kabby! The moment that kiss happens I will have a happy moment at last! Jasper and Maya! Miller and Bryan! Lincoln and Octavia!) Romance has been a secondary genre if not third or fourth, but no matter how much JR wants to make everyone shut up about the ships, we know it's there! '''And I still don't understand Clarke and Lexa bowing to each other and have no interest in reading a 5-paragraph essay on it. I should not have to read fan-written essays to understand what is going on in a show.'''Lexa bowed like Clarke did to signify that while Clarke pledged her alliance to her, it was vice versa. Nothing less, maybe more. It depends on interpretation. The main meaning was this. The rest is sub-text by interpretation.'''WTF was that election supposed to represent? It made absolutely NO sense.'''The election was what happens when you think people can choose wisely. You have the best intentions (in Kane's case, give the people their right to elect leadership), you misinterpret the situation and their needs and Pike screws everything up with his paranoia and racism. '''Why is Abby so incompetent? (I'm just going to copy/paste what I put in my review last week since that still stands.)'''Abby is a person who multi-tasks. She did a good jod last season, not great since Clarke was kinda leading everyone, but her role is clear and Jackson is right. She is a doctor. Either she quits and becomes a full time chancellor or she stops being chancellor. It's too much resposibility! And she saved Nyko, Raven from dying and so many more. She is not incompetent but she is not a god either. Constantly badgers Raven in an unhealthy way while ignoring Jasper who has more critical issues occurringJasper spend 3 months in grief and is refusing all outer help like Raven. Difference is Raven doesn't let anyone in. Jasper still has Monty who got fed up with him resently. Jasper doesn't have closure yet and they were preparing Raven for the Jaha arrival. So, more screen time for Raven, we deal with Jasper later! Released Jasper from Medical after he almost started a warThat was a horrible move, but no one expected him to go this far. Forcibly brought Jasper back to the place of his trauma to "face his feelings"And it didn't work. He is refusing to move on because there is no closure and pain. He still thinks if he had killed Cage it would have been over. He still can't see the bigger picture. Tsing and Cage were the detonator while the rest followed. The explosion was inevitable! Moved half of Farm Station into Mount Weather after having been warned numerous times that it was threatening their truce and tried to excuse the move as part of "saving Nyko's life"Hey, Lexa let it go and Nyko was going to talk to the others about it. It was going to work out if not for Azgeda's and Emerson's timing. It wasn't on Abby. It was on them. Held an election less than a day after joining the CoalitionShe made a choice to be the doctor and not the chancellor. If Kane had just taken the pin, nothing would have happened. NOT ON ABBY! That's on Kane! And we know it as much as he. Gave said election to a man who broke the law moments earlier by arming ten people with guns to go massacre those same people she just joined a coalition withIt was a public election and the people voted him. Same with Jaha and Diana(?) Sydney. She was an idiot who got everyone killed! Yet, she had been elected before Jaha as chancellor and then, people followed her by stealing a dropship and killing one of their own. People did that! The mass! Did not radio Indra ahead of time to warn her Pike was comingI am going to say that she could have, but Kane had the radio, yet I don't know. If she had, their people might have been slaughtered. Still, not sure why. This I accept for not making sense. '''When Octavia wanted to break the rules, told Octavia, "That's not the way we do things." Since when?!? Kane had to freaking shock-lash your insolent ass and now you've decided to follow the rules??'''Yeah, that was when they decided to CHANGE the rules. AFTER the shock lashing. She is trying another way. I am not saying it's the best course of action, but it's better than kill every adult offended and lock the kids! Why would Indra so willingly help Clarke radio Kane after her army was slaughtered by the Sky People and Kane couldn't even bother radioing her ahead of time to warn her?Because Lexa told her? Clarke conviced Lexa to ask Kane why did it happen and how and Lexa claims to be fair and wise. The wise thing is learn what happened and then, kill them Grounder style. Indra adores the commander and would never do something that opposed her. I have countless examples of that if you want them.How come we never got to see Raven grieve for BFF Gina (and who is Gina again)?I don't think they were BFFs but Raven is struggling to be normal with a leg defect and everyone is telling her she is broken one way or another. She blames herself for not doing something for their people in the Mountain, but there are so many things she is frustrated for, I don't think she knows where to begin. Also, I think she is going to adress the Mountain issue again later, when the A.L.I.E. pill wears off or is dealt with. '''Bellamy disowned his sister? And Clarke? All because a plot device died?'''Bellamy is angry with O, because she is still grounder friendly, the same people who killed his GF, 34 of their people and the delinquents from season 1, even though he is fine with Lincoln who is his friend. With Clarke he is furious for abandoning the teen leadership to him after they had committed a massacre and I think he blames her for being selfish about it. Why did Bellamy argue against executing Delano if he's "always wanted" all Grounders to die?Because he is one of them and he has currently lost his kid? Because he is grieving and he doesn't know what the hell he is doing? Because he knows what that's like? I can keep going! '''And why did he also not kill Anya or the Ice Nation scout when he had the opportunities? Again, I have no interest in reading a 5-paragraph essay on it. I should not have to read fan-written essays to understand what is going on in a show. ''' I think you mean Echo and when the hell did he have opportunities to do that? The Azgeda scouts were killed because Jasper went psycho on them and it was a choice between Jasper and the scouts. Echo was someone who has saved his life and he though she could be trusted. He wanted to believe Kane's words that the could coexist. Mountain Weather changed that want to hate. '''Why did Lincoln refuse to leave Arkadia once the kill order was lifted when he's been wanting to run away since IABD? Especially considering he knows how badly Octavia wants to leave? (And it's not because of that BS peace excuse. He attempted peace with Anya and Clarke and was still wise enough to want to leave when that didn't work.)'''Because Lincoln sees this as a chance to prove not every grounder is a serial skaicru killer. He wants to show that if one is different, others can be too. He has made friends there, Octavia is one of them or was, he feels like he belongs and like he said in Ep. 1 "Wanheda part 1" he is not sure if Luna will take them in after everything that's been happenng! Why was Clarke made ambassador when she hadn't ever been to Arkadia, much less had been off-the-grid for three months? Literally anyone else who was there from Arkadia (including Pike) would have been more qualified. At the very least, Clarke should have had some conversations with her "people" she hasn't seen in three months (Abby, Bellamy, Octavia, Kane, Pike) before letting them return to Arkadia so they could hold an impromptu election for a new Chancellor, reject the Coalition they just joined, and then go massacre the 300 warriors the Coalition sent to protect them.  Come on! That's so easy to figure out! A) She used to be a leader B) She is the new Wells! C) Lexa has a thing for her and wants to keep Wanheda as far away as possible from the Ice Queen. D) Clarke is the best strategist they got and she doesn't trust Lexa will keep her word (Mountain Weather, TonDc bombing, Roan's situation). Do you want more? '''Speaking of which, why didn't Abby let Clarke know that even though they just joined the Coalition moments earlier, she was going straight back to Arkadia to hold an election for a new Chancellor the very next morning? That seems like something an ambassador should know.'''Because almost 40 of their people were blown up and they had 3 armed people in an no-weapons-allowed area and they had to scram? Also, she was certain that Kane would win. So, why bother her daughter with that to? Why did Lexa so readily agree to letting the Sky People off the hook while she's camped out above her 300 dead warriors?I blame the A.L.I.E. 2 chip and her affection for Clarke! And considering the smell, why did she decide to set up camp there of all places?I don't think people bother with aestethics when their people are slaughtered and Lexa is knwon to be ruthless. Remember how she treated Gustus whom she cared for? Costia's head being served on a plate at her bed and STILL making Azgeda part of the Coalition? She wouldn't ignore it. Does that tent seriously get set up wherever she stops for the night, complete with the ostentatious decorations?Ok, that was unrealistic and unresonable. I had thought of it too! Did she not remember that just two days prior she was fighting Roan to the death to keep command because the entire Coaltion (except for Clarke) gave a vote of "no confidence" in her ability to lead??? And I still I have no interest in reading a 5-paragraph essay on it. I should not have to read fan-written essays to understand what is going on in a show. Remember the arrogant response to Indra "They are my subjects!" etc? Makes sense and she also proved to be more than a good choice of a commander who kills those who oppose her (Nia, the Azgeda abassador #1) Any more points you want me to cover?! I actually agree with alot of your points Thank you. I'm glad to hear it's not just me! :P There are moments I truly think I am reading too much into this.

Anybody noticed how Lexa became from a powerful personality to someone controlled/influenced a lot by her love for Clarke? Not to undermine her, but Titus was right in "Ye Who Enter Here". Lexa elevated Clarke too much.