Board Thread:General Discussion/@comment-26601629-20170905230106/@comment-71.120.10.154-20170924190233

JCB95 wrote: Octavia wanted to share the bunker with everyone unlike Luna who didn't want anyone to have it. Octavia didn't make the decision based on smarts, but more on the moment. By deciding to share the bunker, and unifying everyone she became a savior of sorts. The grounders were probably more concerned about picking their 100 survivors, not that Octavia wasn't skikru leader. After the fact the grounders probably still saw Octavia as their leader, and after everything he did Kane was broken and challenging Octavia for leadership wa probably the last thing he wanted to do. Arm padding means nothing it's just something someone wears for protection. The forehead seal I believe is more of a sacred thing, and something leaders wear. If Octavia is the commander in season 5, then fire he writers because that would be ridiculous after Indra's speach. Again Octavia was only made Leader because She saved every grounder. I don't see it as cheap for Octavia to be in a leadership position. They've been building up her character a lot, and after the conclave the best way to expand her character more was to put her in a leadership position. My point is even if she wanted to share the bunker, she had no authority to do so. It makes 0 sense. Could fio have uttered such lines if he won?? Kane was the only one who was recognized the the grounders as the skaikru leader and they only one the should have listened to. Like I said, it's the same reason anya never agreed to peace with Clarke in the first season, she knew clarke wasn't the leader and had no authority to broker any peace, same thing should have happened with octavia. Of course she didn't make the decision based on smarts, she rarely thinks things through. Becoming a savior is one way to look at it, but the most logical thing is that while unintentional, she leveraged the lives of the grounders to complete a hostile takeover. There was no broken kane, up until that point he had been the leader of skaikru, even azgeda saw him as such when they marched on arkadia. Kane has always been battling decisions since the ark, there was nothing wrong with him that wasn't usual. When Lexa was first shown pretending to be a prisoner, her men gave her her arm padding and thing on her head, that signified she was the commander. The arm padding is clearly also a sign of her being the commabder, and there were both given to octavia to signify she was the leader, and the forehead thing is only worn by lexa, not any leader. It was very cheap, because before she came there, she was literally at a very low point, and she just comes and takes over what everyone has been working on? for real? Exactly how have they been building up the character? Could you tell me scenes where she is being built up to be a leader? or even scenes where she showed good leadership skills? And the scene with the sniper wasn't leadership. Lol her first decision as leader was to have all of Skaikru killed. I was shaking my head, thinking, is this the person who is supposed to lead them for 5 years +, they are so dead. How exactly did she plan on running the entire bunker if Jaya and Kane hadn't gassed the sky people, and with Indra (who is always frothing at the mouth, Kill skaikru, kill azgeda, kill everyone) as her advisor, I feel sorry for those in the bunker. With a leader like that, logically their chances of survival is less than 10%, very grim indeed